Me & 300 other people lol
Originally Posted by jorped
we have different side of views and thats why we have the different oppinions.
I mean obviously,
For me i love OP but in my mind i clearly see Naruto has the better,
1. U never answered any of my main questions
2. every time you compare the 2 you mainly talk about Narutos serious side to One piece Comical side (which is very unfair)
don't look that way to me. Just look @ this post & u can see how much u go into detail about naruto but you give a quick 2 or 3 sentences for one piece side.
and i try to be imparcial, and in the end the conclusion that i get is that Naruto beats OP.
so by your logic we can compare any manga with any manga because
they are both shonen so its easy to compare both , cuz they are similiar. we can compare the cast , we can compare the story , we can comapre the all the all world of both of them and althought we can like more of one of those 2 in some categories its going to be impossible to say that one isnt better than the other on that specific category.
1. Just about every manga has a story,
2. Most action/adventure mangas has a world
3. every manga out there has a cast
so why just compare the Shonen demographic with the Shonen demographic?
Maybe, maybe not. naruto start was good, Flashy & action pack, but we got a little to much with not enough insight. so IMO i think the execution wasn't all there.
i read both of them and i think that most of the people if they read both of them will think this way,
you say you try to be *impartial* but you compare climatic arcs to *beginning* arcs? Once Again not a fair comparison on your part.
cuz although One Piece was interesting on the beggining, seeing Luffy searching for crewmates, i think that everyone will think that at least comparing OP since the water7 arc ( not counting with thriller bark) is awy better than the beggining ,
in the beginning we had a Money Hungry Buffoon
and few people i think will say that buggy , or kuro, or arlong,....... can beat the awesome beggining that Naruto had.
I care taker who was once a pirate who deceived the the richest girl in the village to try to take her wealth because he was tired of the pirate life.
and a Fish man crew take over a village because they don't like the human race because the humans discriminated against them in one point in time (& still does now) to make them feel there pain in suffering
Might i add none of these arcs took place in the same town or Village
sounds exciting to me
And that was?
cuz naruto had everything that one piece had and more ,
& i ask again, How so?
the history was much more interesting.
the miss understood main character. that nobody liked How original
Naruto , someone that is not understand, nobody liked ,nobody liked ,
Naruto didn't hate anyone He was a delinquent who wanted to prove himself to the world
and because of that he hated everyone.
why would he be a class clown if he hates everyone?
on school he was always the clown
& the rest is just a synopsis on the first major arc which doesn't prove anything about Naruto being better because of your inability to compare things.
and his rival was sasuke , we was always training so hard but his progress was almost none cuz Sasuke was always so far away from him. And then the school ends and we somehow managed to graduate and he was placed on team with sasuke and sakura and since the begginig another awesome charcater appears , kakashi! the leader of team 7. the all idea of the missions divided on ranks , based on this difficulty to perform , arcs as zabuza and haku was what made me fall him love for Naruto , since the beggining that i love naruto , and since the beggining that naruto has everything that i like , it has action, it has awesome battles , it is original , that world seemed to be very well created, i loved naruto charcater , its the type of one that doesnt give ( the same as luffy) and he wants to protect those friends above everything.
Alot of thinks happened and one of the best thinks of Naruto part and that happened on the beggining was chunin exam , everything about it was just awesome , the introduction of orchimaru , we get to know abilities of ninjas of other villages as gaara was so amazing. zo based on what i see i can clearly say that the start of naruto beats clearly the start of OP , cuz it is much more interesting than when luffy found zoro , or when he managed to defeat kuro , i think that it isnt any comparation, cuz naruto story was much more interesting than OP one.
But look @ what we have here?! After you give a huge summery about naruto you then give two brief & short examples of how one piece is lacking. Is this you trying to be impartial?
All i want to know is HOW is one piece easy to understand. I never assumed you meant that i thought U was saying one piece was bad because its easy to understand. I just want you to elaborate on how is it easy to understand.
Saying that OP is easy to understand , its not a bad think cuz and its not something that can be used to judge on this case, cuz smarter doesnt mean better.
& i ask Again How so?
i meant only to say that kishi work is harder than oda, kishi since the beggining he was much more bold than oda ,alot more
I would say they need just about the same attention. Because if you miss a important note Like the straw hats saying they want to go to fishman island & then you end up confused about why are they at this place it might as well be filler thats them failing to pay attention to key notes. & if some one says This 4th world war is retarded in naruto they would look just as stupid because they failed to pay attention. Just like how i failed to pay attention to how the power system works in Hunter x Hunter. now i need to go back & read it slowly because i tried to speed read that series
and his story is clearly neeeded much more attention to understand and by that we know much more thinks about it.
if you wanted to back up your claims better then you should be able to give examples no problem. I read Naruto & One Piece faithfully on a week to week bases, & i was a narutard @ 1 point in time. but i don't think naruto is better, which is why examples would be good. this makes me question whether or not you've read One Piece throughly.
I am not going to give examples cuz if someone read both they will easily understand what i am saying, in this case we can clearly be sure that it isnt personal thought it is a fact , at least until what both oda and kishi showed to us.
Yea I've read it but if someones ask you a question you answer it. Thats how debates work
how is naruto villains better????
have you read Naruto?
what? seriously what is this suppose to mean I'm highly confused.
i think that its very likely for someone that did being saying that.
Neither do i its just icing on the cake
I dont mind about back story,
so how do you feel towards the characters?
the only feeling in the end that matters is what i feel about this charcater presence.
and i can say for sure that kabuto , or madara and especialy orochimaru beat who ever villain has appear until now on OP. blkackbeard for me although i get is "paper" comapring to orochimaru is a nothing lol.
just like how i think its a fact how One Piece is better then Naruto Lol
and that is a personal thought but also a fact i think ,
they did the same things? Orochimaru didn't have to bring anyone to the Akatsuki to become a Akatsuki member. BB on the other hand had to Capture Ace also BB Left the shichibukai & from what i remember Orochimaru was kicked out. so with that being said Orochimaru did nothing BB did.
everything that blackbeard did orochimaru did.
A cowardly villain In one piece sounds bold one Odas part & he looks ugly too.
when we look to blackbeard we think that that guy is kinda pathetic,
its much more difficult to get that feeling looking to naruto villains. which isn't very bold now is it?
One Piece charcaters will never beat Naruto´s at least not for the gao that most of you think it has.
in my oppinion the cast of naruto is much better
as i already said the villains are better ,
IDK what to make of the bold part. how are the characters Deeper?
naruto for me wins against luffy , cuz they both are very look like but naruto is a more deep character,
He didn't know his parents up until recently tho that part is irrelevant Theres many good people out there who don't know there parents. you can also say Luffy Is a character that shows everything good that a human can be although the fact that he don't know his parents & he WATCHED his Brother get killed on the battlefield
and he is a character that shows everything good that a human can be, althought the fact that his parent died ,
Luffy dont like being alone which is why he latches on to people which in itself is a deep character trait
so he was alone on this world and plus that fact no one liked him because of the fact that he has the 9 tails inside of himself. his life wasnt easy ,
Plus the fights of Naruto are much more interesting than OP one, no chance that any fight of OP beats the classic that are for example, lee vs gaara ; sasuke vs naruto ( valley of end) ; naruto vs pain , ..........
If you dont feel like answering any of my questions you might as well not respond @ all & if you do reply to my post without making some decent points & comparisons i wont respond @ all. it was i was even debating with myself whether or not to reply to this.