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oh he will do that suprememod
I surely hope not, the 500th chapter warrants for something much more special than Sasuke but I think there will be some major plot developments about the war by than. Or at least something about what Madara's up to, he does have to fight the entire ninja world....
It's gonna be even more piss taking because there's a week break after the 499th chapter so 500 will mind fuck all of us -_-;
Well, that's what I've read in the Shounen Jump section on this site.
Is this the place for this? Ah goddamnit, I'm pijo and I'll post where I goddamn please, fuck y'all!
I've said this before, but goddamnit it's still bothering me - Is Kishimoto a bad writer, or is Sasuke faking evil?
After all, what was the last fight we saw Sasuke in before the Kage summit?
The fight vs Bee.
And what happened there? This.
I find it hard to understand how Sasuke can go so quickly from fondly remembering Team 7, and desperately trying to save Taka, to abandoning Juugo and Suigetsu, and attempting to kill Karin, Kakashi, Sakura and Naruto. There wasn't even a transitional period, he went immediately from anti-hero to full blown Hitler.
So either Kishimoto's just fucked up with the writing, or is Sasuke pretending to be evil to get Taka free from Madara's clutches, and to attempt to stop Naruto from coming so close to Akatsuki all the time? It would also explain his earlier interest about if Akatsuki had captured Naruto yet too, and why Madara chose to send him after Bee, rather than Naruto.
This has almost certainly been posted before (by me, at least), but I'm packing heat, so I dare one of you bitches to step up. I dare you.
Where have you been? Sasuke became officially irredeemable after this:
Spoiler show
I don't see what is so special about that particular incident. Sasuke did the exact same thing to Orochimaru. He used both parties to accomplish certain goals and disregarded them afterwards. And seeing as how Karin worked for Orochimaru she is far from being an angel. Not to mention that she was pretty much a "terrorist" while with Sasuke. So the whole "good guy" and "bad guy" argument won't really work here. But i suppose Sasuke trying to kill a woman as opposed to a man could have more of an emotional impact. And you can't even say that when Sasuke went after Orochimaru that there was still "hope" for him. Because prior to that he did attack his former team/village mates and tried to kill them.Quote:
Originally Posted by SupremeMod
Well UR right, Sasuke did feel something similar to what he had with team 7 when they fought bee...but if U remember what he said when Kakashi asked him about their past as a team and his time spent in konoha, he kinda gave a definite answer...but his unstable, Naruto put him back to his place when he showed up, and he might even do something for those Konoha people whom he despises...currently he is evil, the convo with Kakashi proves thatQuote:
Originally Posted by pijo
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Originally Posted by SupremeMod
Translation, people who wanted a reason to hate Sasuke finally got one, so they took the bait and have been running ever since.
Is it just "wanted" a reason, you act like Kishi hasn't put effort into making Sasuke detestable. All but the most willfully blind Sasuke sympathizers admit that much.
Say that to the Iron Samurai that he killed bloodthirstily.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brill
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The question isn't if, but when. Was Sasuke really "evil" when he attacked Bee-and failed- but people we're dancing in the forums saying "Sasuke's truly evil. Yay!!" If that makes you evil then the whole Kumo village must be evil.Quote:
Originally Posted by jdw
When Sasuke attacked the guards infiltrating the Kage summit, people once again said "Yay, he killed guards, Sasuke's pure evil". Does killing guards while infiltrating a base make you evil? Hell, then every shinobi must be evil.
Abandoning his comrades? Yeah in Kakashi's book that makes you evil, but not everybody's.
Killing the guy who ordered the assassination of your entire clan? Some may call that justice.
Sasuke atttacking Karin to get to Danzou is likely Sasuke's first premeditated "evil" act, but people we're jumping the gun months earlier "estatic" that Sasuke was evil when clearly he wasn't. Several people were looking for a reason to hate Sasuke before he really became worthy of their disdain.
Even as a Sasuke fan, I admit he is fucked up at the moment. The convo he had with Kakashi was to brutal, when he says he wants to kill everyone even the people that weren't born at the time of the Uchiha Massacre or didn't have to do anything with the massacre, that's fucked up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brill
When he says to Kakashi that he doesn't want to see a Non Uchiha like Kakashi use the Sharingan against him because it's disrespectful to the Uchiha clan, when this is the same guy who taught Sasuke his best move - Chidori, taught him how to use his eyes, Curse Seal etc, and Sasuke says that shit to him? That's fucked up.
All in all, he is clearly evil at the moment. He's partnered with the wrong side - Madara and Akatsuki. That's enough reason.
I used to think he wasn't evil but his latest actions are just insane.
well if sasuke is faking evil then it would suck. was really looking forward to a all out fight between sasuke and naruto. evil vs good. though everything seems too realistic anyway. karin even said hes chakra has become darker and more evil. unless sasuke could fake his chakra too ofcourse....Quote:
Originally Posted by pijo
but stil im predicting that sasuke and naruto at the end would both fight 'together' to beat the jyuubi. i for one would be unsatisfied if the greatest threat introduced is not defeated before the manga ends. it would feel incomplete to me. i dont think kishimoto introduced the strongest beast as a threat only for it not to be overcome. i know there is the factor of the nine tails needing to be extracted before the release of jyuubi which would leave naruto dead. but i know kishimoto would find a way. in mangas like this, the greatest threat introduced is always defeated and not avoided.. and with the whole yin and yang thing between sasuke and naruto, i think after they have had their fight and naruto has brought sasuke back to the light side, that is when they would work together to fight the jyuubi. with this sasuke would make up for all his crimes.
and a quick question. is gaara's sand a kekkei genkai. because he mixes wind and earth together and if i am not mistaken that is how you form a kekkei genkai right?