Re: Clare's Final Opponent
Err, I forgot to do this... my bad.... so here it is:
Originally Posted by HegemonKhan
ch 24, pgs ~ 22-23
page ~ 22:
Clare: My existence to her [Priscilla as a Claymore and as an Awakened] was nothing more than a stone by the side of the road. I wasn't enough to fill her [Awakened Priscilla's] belly. Or, perhaps, I didn't even get reflected in her [Awakened Priscilla's] eyes.
Page ~ 23:
Clare: I couldn't even hate the beast [Priscilla] that killed Teresa. It was me, overcome by fear, that I couldn't forgive.
Clare knows TRUE DESPAIR:
Clare's own weakness, fear, and lack of hatred, as she just watched her beloved Teresa get killed before her eyes, as she just watched Teresa's decapitated head falling to the ground. "It was me, overcome by fear, that I couldn't forgive (Clare, ch 24, pg ~ 23)."
ch. 27, pgs ~ 23-25:
Lido "Spiderman" male AB: Well, I guess it's time. I gave you taste of true despair.
ch. 28, pgs ~ 26-28:
Helen: It's hopeless. This is the end. There's nothing I can do. It's like he said. This is true despair.
Clare responding to Helen: After only this?
Clare to everyone: I've known a far greater opponent* ... And felt true despair.
*lol, Clare, you mean you known the GREATEST opponent, THEE Awakened Priscilla, hehe
---------- Post added at 11:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:25 PM ----------
I have no idea how Claymore will end, or who the "final boss" will be (though I got a wild theory of it being Rubel, the true-real LEADER of the Organization, hehe), if there even is one for that matter.
Originally Posted by Rebel L
I don't think Clare's humanity vs monstrosity will be the "final battle/opponent", because Yagi has already shown us Clare's decision: Revenge. Clare's sole existence is to take Priscilla's head.
and we see Clare choosing (and proving me right about her) revenge over her humanity:
ch. 100 pg ~ 8: RAWR, CHARGE AND KILL PRISCILLA (#1) ! (Nice Panties Clare! *HK grins*)
ch. 100 pg ~18: ENCORE! RAWR, CHARGE AND KILL PRISCILLA (#2) ! (doh, Clare's ?skirt-dress? is down and covering her bottom, lol)
ch 100 pg ~ 24: Clare: I'm sorry, I'm abandoning my humanity.
ch 100 pg ~25: Clare: (paraphrasing) just wanted to meet, say goodbye, and know that Raki is safe. But, Raki's nothing, as "I intending to do this [AWAKEN AND KILL PRISCILLA!] from the very beginning, as soon as I met this girl [Priscilla, currently] in front of me [as I know this one-horned monster from long ago. I already know who this one-horned monster is, Deneve+Helen, and I'm going to AWAKEN AND TAKE HER HEAD!]... My sole reason for living is simply to kill her [Priscilla]".
ch. 99 pgs ~ 14, 16, 18, 19, 20-21, and 22-23: Clare realizes/recognizes Priscilla's Yoki, and Clare becomes "Murderously Enraged and Berserk", Clare recognizes Priscilla coming to kill her, and Clare is Uber-Set-Upon KILLING Priscilla, hehe! :D
ch. 100 pgs ~ 26-31: Clare is YR'ing, PARTIAL AWAKENING (her first time); RAWR, DIE PRISCILLA!
ch 100 pgs ~ 32-33: Clare: (paraphrasing) NO, DAMMIT! (theorizingly) TERESA DON'T STOP ME FROM KILLING THIS (censored) PRISCILLA! Teresa's first retraction of Clare's first Partial Awakening.
ch 101 pg ~5: (theorizingly) Teresa stops Again*-Partially-Awakened (*thus, Clare wasn't unable to Awaken) Clare's Huge Blade Arms from pulverizing Priscilla's face+head (though Priscilla doesn't look too concerned... is Priscilla truly unkillable? or does she merely have a body like Riful's, Agatha's, and Ophelia's, with Priscilla's "head" actually merely being a fake head, and not her real head?) by just an inch! This was Clare's 2nd time to Partially Awakened or her first time to Re-Partially Awaken.
ch. 101 pg ~6: (theorizingly) Teresa again, retracts Clare's Huge Blade Arms.
ch. 101 pgs ~7-10: Clare continues to Re-Re-Partially Awaken (her 2nd time to Re-Partially Awaken or her 3rd time to Partially Awaken), as she IS determined to KILL PRISCILLA! So, (theorizingly) Teresa prevents Clare from Partially Awakening, in order to render Clare unable to kill Priscilla, since Clare won't stop trying to kill Priscilla, lol.
Re: Clare's Final Opponent
i cant imagine Clare having power(with ghosts and all together) to defeat Priscilla, for this and some more reasons i believe that Priscilla wont even be defeated because she either turns into sth else or become 'good'
i think Clare's revenge is silly, revenge itself doesnt accomplish anything and vasting your life to do it is even more stupid, +if she really wanted to make Teresa happy she would live as a human
i think Clare should and will realize this and will stop purse Priscilla
last opponent - definitely not priscilla (read above) - one more reason - i believe Rubel gets explained, mainland gets explained (50% it was made up) and i believe the last battle will either be Clare with herself over what to do, or Rubel (or someone similar (puppet master)) will be cornered and punished as the one true evil (thus final and most important opponent)
i wanna see mainland explained and would be nice to get there if it exist.. i dont think it would ruin story (could but not necessarily) and i think the same of Teresa being revived.. psychologically would be interesting and instead of weakening the story it could strengthen it - like hep Clare stop going for revenge or just fight final opponent
as i said i dont think final opponent will be much of a fight - more of an conclusion and philosophicalinsight into good and bad sides in claymore (ghosts vs Rubel?)
i think highly of Rimuto (boss of org) but he could get betrayed (physically (=murdered) Dae already started with betrayals)
regarding org - i think its complete structure is weak - the whole 'strength' shoul lie on those 3-4 black coats (Armita,Rimuto, Rubel,some more) and im most curiousa about their secret of longevity and mysteriousness
Re: Clare's Final Opponent
I always thought it would be Priss, but now after looking at the way the manga is going, I can say the last battle will be between the Claymores and the DoDs.