Am I the only one who wants Konohagakure Arena deleted? <_<
Am I the only one who wants Konohagakure Arena deleted? <_<
I don't want it deleted, I just pick and chose my battles in it. You can't debate and reason with everyone.
The amount of arguments, bad arguments, and repetition I see are just annoying. About 100 posts of arguing what Raikage meant? Why not just shush and leave it at what people want? No point in continuing, imo.
Not all of his skills and abilities. His taijutsu wasn't Rinnegan based, as far as we know
Did he really use taijutsu all that often? Or is this one of those cases where taijutsu is the only "jutsu" type that isn't chakra based so we have to give him credit for something?
How does complete control count as influence? You are phrasing it as if those are the only times that count, because of the fact that those times, the fox took complete control. One can still influence another while the person being influenced still has control over their own actions.Quote:
Oh, I know that, but Naruto still had influence and could still think for himself. During the timeskip, Kyuubi completely took over and nearly killed Jiraiya. It also completely took over when Yamato, Sakura, Sai, and Naruto were meeting Kabuto and met Orochimaru, and when Naruto fought Pain.
We learned that the fox's chakra came with its will as well. this is why Naruto was in danger of losing himself.
If it's not really "Naruto" anymore then what does it matter? He's not truly giving Naruto power, he's creating a way to get free. Nagato doesn't need to worry about this because, once again, eyeballs aren't sentient.Quote:
Even if Naruto becomes crazy and pays a heavy price socially, it doesn't change the fact that the Kyuubi will still protect him and give him power.
But Nagato began to actively use Rinnegan. He still had to train to use it, somehow. He couldn't have known most of the power that Rinnegan gave him without training or practicing... though Kabuto apparently seemed to know when he took control of Nagato.
And we are right back to it. Benefit of the doubt, and assumptions. Logic dictates that those techniques just didn't pop out of thin air, but that's all we have. And ultimately, that just amounts the benefit of the doubt.
Here's the thing about that, I'm not basing my claim on two separate people in two separate situations. You're saying Nagato was awake because Kakashi and Sasuke were awake for their transplants. Sasuke is honestly just an assumption. Like I said before, we don't know how much time passed between the operation actually finishing and when we saw Sasuke. even still, it does not make sense to say that one character was awake for an operation because two other characters in two completely different situations were awake for theirs. That does not connect at all.Quote:
Yes, just as it's logical to assume he was under anesthesia and knocked out.
Thank you for being overly literal. But in this instance, I meant the traffic of eyes in regard to his sockets. Magic the gathering for example. If I wanted to take a card out of the deck, I'd swap that card for another and place it in the deck. he has done it more than once, so he would understand how to do it. So the likelihood of him messing up is extremely slim. However, that point is moot now.Quote:
Didn't he get that from someone? But he only swapped his eyes with Izuna, at best, give Nagato his eyes, and took someone's eye. But my definition of swapping means exchange of eyes, which Madara didn't do as far as we know.
And of course asking to be more mature to us users would be also good, as prince sasuke said you can't reason with everyone
If Oro couldn't in time, I doubt even Yondaime could
Read the two threads, in the first people debates whenever Yondaime can wound Raikage or not, in the second you have people creating new powers from nowhere, you have people claiming Sasuke can solo 5 Kages with mid to low difficulty :lmaoQuote:
A vs. Minato is Minato wank at its finest as well. Same with Darui vs. Minato.
Although Darui would lose to MInato.
I doubt its easy, since, as you said, it was also covered by rocks as an added protection.Quote:
We actually don't know how much power was required to break Chibaku Tensei. Plus, the black ball was covered by thick layers of rock.
Within reason, of course :pwngeQuote:
Oh, k. If you argue Minato can beat Kyuubi-butt-buddy-mode Naruto, I will ban you from life. :pwnge
The funny thing is that trolling Yondaime is way more easier than bashers think, just make a Third Raikage vs Yondaime topic :lmao
Actually Kisame is at a disadvantage, since Earth>Water, and with SM Jiraiya can dish out great punishment in taijutsuQuote:
Funny thing is, people always refer to that when they say Jiraiya can beat ITachi, but no one even points out that Kisame after teh fight said Itachi could have taken Jiraiya on. Itachi himself never said he couldn't, just that he needed to rest and something about timing.
Itachi chose to flee, because there's no way he couldn't have beaten Jiraiya. Kisame would have had an advantage against Jiraiya too, since Jiraiya's a ninjutsu type. Combine that with Jiraiya's lack of knowledge on Amaterasu (and possibly Mangekyo), Itachi and Kisame would have won.
And hi5 on the last part.
Kyuubi is better than almost any ninja. Dunno about Yamato though. Naruto needed help to beat Kyuubi, Madara had the eyes that controls Kyuubi, Hashirama had Mokuton... I don't think anyone could beat Kyuubi... except for maybe ET Madara.
Look at the middle, the bottom right and the bottom left panel
We all agree that Naruto sensed Itachi. Bee on the other hand was really suprised. I don't think Itachi is fast enough to suprise Bee with a direct movement speed. But he sure is able to suprise almost anyone with his combat speed, where he combines movement speed, handseal speed and Clones.
- middle panel -> the Clone of Itachi is holding Nagato and speaking to Naruto
- bottom right panel -> Nagato warns Naruto & Bee, Itachis Clone goes "poof"
- bottom left panel -> the real Itachi is jumping at Naruto and Bee out of nowhere
The purpose was to infect Obito by contact regardless of how and where the contact is made. He succeeded, but lost the battle of course.
It's thanks to the posts here, which give me the idea/concept for an edit.
I will search all my edits and post them in the thread you linked. That also goes for all my future edits.
That's a promise, I won't screw up like Kakashi. :teehee
Better off deleted.
I wouldn't mind if it gets deleted, but I don't think anything would change. The debates will still continue here or in the Chapter Discussion thread, whenever someone makes a comparsion between two characters.
Better let the Hangout & Chapter Discussion Thread out of this. :3c
It's not everything bad in the Arena. If the discussion heats up, people should follow...
Obitos advice for Konohagakure Arena posters! :super
Well, we'd have an excuse to delete the off topic posts. Too much namecalling and butthurts occur because of that section, whether it's "chump" or "fanboy".
Hell, I had to even ban "fanboy" from being used in that section. That is NOT a good thing. <_<
Here you go...
I hope you are happy... I had to sacrifice an evening of Borderlands 2 with my buddies for this :p