Naruto 604 Discussion

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Originally Posted by badluckartist

I think it's possible the Zetsu clones can only use jutsu if they're created with the chakra capacity to do so. The Kisame Zetsu was on a special mission to fool A and Bee, so he probably wasn't lying when he started to use that suiton jutsu before being decapitated. The clone army (ugh) was probably made with the bare minimum chakra requirements to make them work right (like a normal person), considering Tobi was so concerned about using the Mazou's chakra. Kabuto's modifications probably only provided higher stamina, and not necessarily the chakra capacity required to use jutsu.

TLDR; it's still entirely plausible that this Kakashi and Rin are both Zetsu. Though knowing Kishi, he'll probably commence with the retcons of Kakashi's past, or Obito will just kind of... run away. Or conveniently be whisked away back to the hideout by Spiral Zetsu.

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Or zetsu is just a good actor and just trolled them like he was actually trying to defend himself. Raikage and KB might have gotten suspicious of 'kisame' if he just let himself get offed without trying to go down like a boss. Which in turn was actually true, see how he fought till the end when he faced gai.

Obito, has already shown us that apprearances are everything.

Anyone else think Obito will fight Kakashi and proceed to get owned?

I'd like to see that... but that'd make for some continuity errors. First off, Obito screaming over and over "Kakashi! You let Rin die! You promised to protect her!!" would be too peculiar for Kakashi to not know it's Obito he's attacking, lol.

Could be an open fight. There's already some continuity errors, what's another error? :derp

Kakashi might actually think he killed Obito this time, activating his Mangekyo unknowingly until he comes across Itachi. And all in the meanwhile, Obito fails to understand what happened until sometime soon in present time.

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Originally Posted by M3J

Could be an open fight. There's already some continuity errors, what's another error? :derp

Kakashi might actually think he killed Obito this time, activating his Mangekyo unknowingly until he comes across Itachi. And all in the meanwhile, Obito fails to understand what happened until sometime soon in present time.

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I hate this idea, because it would make Kakashi look stupid. Madara will stop Obito before he attacks Itachi. But yes, I gave up on expecting Kishi to give a shit about his story. So it wouldn't surprise me at all. :x

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Originally Posted by badluckartist

I mean.... it was pretty obvious it was a genjutsu. Now, the week-after-week genjutsu fakeouts during the Sasuke/Itachi fight- that was some cliffhanger bullshit right there.

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Yeah it was, and that's just my point xD It was just boring and yet Kishi put it up as the big cliffhanger for the chapter.

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Originally Posted by Bill the Cat

The switch had already happened. And in 473, the pencil was thrown, cutting the clone and making him bleed.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v50/c473/2.html

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The fact that he's just saying the jutsu name in his head really makes it seem like he could actually do the jutsu... I wonder if it's just because Zetsu are made of Mokuton.

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Originally Posted by Bill the Cat

The switch had already happened. And in 473, the pencil was thrown, cutting the clone and making him bleed.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v50/c473/2.html

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This page sadly reminded me of wind being the element to cut things.....

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Originally Posted by badluckartist

The fact that he's just saying the jutsu name in his head really makes it seem like he could actually do the jutsu... I wonder if it's just because Zetsu are made of Mokuton.

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I guess that that does not make any difference, The Jutsu is a Simple Suiton Jutsu, and, Zetsu also uses mokkuton...
And, It could be just pretending...That at the ending scene cannot be Zetsu, Kakashi is With Raikiri actived, and is crying...

What i really think about that ending scene with Kakashi and Rin, is that, Rin was Taken by Kirigakure and received Rokubi chakra...That would Explain the Bubbles around then, and why Kakashi had to Kill her...

I Really don't know what to think anymore...

http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/605

Marshall, if I thought you were being serious, I would have steered the hell clear of the entire conversation :)