Re: Is it really the end for Love and Hate
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number12michael
Maybe he was the one to told her to kill them ?
Implying that Rubel ordered or manipulated Roxanne to kill her friends, huh???. Honestly, I can't see his motives; unless all of Roxy's "friends" have partially awakened in the past and he figured it will be a good idea to get rid of them. In other words, he would have employed the same tactic as he did to get rid of Claire and the others. However, this time he would have used a mentally unstable Claymore rather than an awakened being to help him carry out his plan.
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number12michael
you never know they could have been snooping around...who knows.....but what i want to know is why would the n5 still hang around with Roxanne even tho she was know as creepy and her friends die around her
Maybe for the same reason Cassy befriended nr 35....She knew Cassy's technique was creepy, grotesque or whatever you want to call it. Yet, she became Cassy's best friend~
Re: Is it really the end for Love and Hate
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number12michael
you never know they could have been snooping around...who knows.....but what i want to know is why would the n5 still hang around with Roxanne even tho she was know as creepy and her friends die around her
She Might have been lonely. And Elizabeth might have thought that Roxanne wasnt as bad as she thought, becasue didnt Roxanne already meet Elizabeth before befrineding her and i dont really think Roxanne was as insane back then, so mayve Elizabeth thought Roxanne was jsut troubled.
Or there could be aother reason. Elizabeth may not have had anything to do with Roxanne, because it did say in Chp.117 that Elizabeth died shortly after Roxanne stole her technique. And what i find weird about that is unlike Neideen adn Uranus where it shows Roxanne fihgting together with them it shows nothing about Roxanne and Elizabeth. And in that same chapter it explains Roxanne's ability to hide er Yoki from a single target and it says "And that is connected to her effective acquisition of other peoples every technique" and when it says that it shows her stalking Cassandra lol. So whos to say she didnt do the same for Elizabeth? Maybe she saw the technique ad decided to copy it without the help of the original Creator?
Re: Is it really the end for Love and Hate
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BleachFan2010
She Might have been lonely. And Elizabeth might have thought that Roxanne wasnt as bad as she thought, becasue didnt Roxanne already meet Elizabeth before befrineding her and i dont really think Roxanne was as insane back then, so mayve Elizabeth thought Roxanne was jsut troubled.
Or there could be aother reason. Elizabeth may not have had anything to do with Roxanne, because it did say in Chp.117 that Elizabeth died shortly after Roxanne stole her technique. And what i find weird about that is unlike Neideen adn Uranus where it shows Roxanne fihgting together with them it shows nothing about Roxanne and Elizabeth. And in that same chapter it explains Roxanne's ability to hide er Yoki from a single target and it says "And that is connected to her effective acquisition of other peoples every technique" and when it says that it shows her stalking Cassandra lol. So whos to say she didnt do the same for Elizabeth? Maybe she saw the technique ad decided to copy it without the help of the original Creator?
hmm would make sense that she could copy the tech in secret....maybe thats what she was planning on doing to cassandra until she seen the Dust Eater ... because cassandra said "Even the warrior who admired me....called me dust eater and left" so that means right after Roxanne seen the DE she let cassandra know that she knew of the DE , named her "dust eater cassandra" and then never talked to her again lol....until she let her friend die ...lol and we all know how well that turned out for cassy
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number12michael
hmm would make sense that she could copy the tech in secret....maybe thats what she was planning on doing to cassandra until she seen the Dust Eater ... because cassandra said "Even the warrior who admired me....called me dust eater and left" so that means right after Roxanne seen the DE she let cassandra know that she knew of the DE , named her "dust eater cassandra" and then never talked to her again lol....until she let her friend die ...lol and we all know how well that turned out for cassy
Maybe Elizabeth was just an Experiment for Roxanne to see if she could copy a technique without the help of the Original Owner. Because the chap said that Elizabeth died shortly after Roxanne took her Beautiful Sword. So maybe she personally killed Elizabeth ? Because i highly doubt one of the top 5's would be too happy to find out one of their technique was stolen by Roxanne.
And when it came to Cassandra i think Roxanne learning the technique herself would have been the only way for her to get it because of Cassandra's reluctance t show it in front of others and i dont think Cassandra would let another Warrior learn the technique.
I think out of all the warriors whove had friends and lost Cassandra's had it the worst, she had Roxanne who only wanted her for her technique and once she saw it she nicknamed her "Dust Eater" which would have been humiliating. And when Cassandra made a true frined in Warrior 35 Roxanne orchestrated her death causing Cass to be killed by her fellow warriors :/
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To be honest, I can't help but wonder what the heck made Roxanne to become mentally unstable??? We all know that most Claymores had traumatic pasts...yet, only Prissy and Ophelia snapped because of it. Any suggestions?
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Ancy
To be honest, I can't help but wonder what the heck made Roxanne to become mentally unstable??? We all know that most Claymores had traumatic pasts...yet, only Prissy and Ophelia snapped because of it. Any suggestions?
Ive got no clue either. I dont think she was insane when we first saw her in her flashback. But the higher she got in the ranks she started looking mor unhinged, i think she went nuts because of her rise in power (although im probably wrong XD). I think an extra scene with Rox would efinitely clear things up about her. At least with Ophelia we knew the reasons she was insane aswell as Priscilla, but with Roxanne there are so many things unanswered. ^^
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I think that she was a sociopath this whole time and what we've seen was either her true nature or a mask that she put on in front of others. It's not like only sane people become Claymores. It's possible that Roxanne would have become a serial killer even if she was human.
As for the starting post, I doubt that Roxanne is still alive or present in some way, although it would be an interesting plot-twist. But I just don't see how Roxanne could manipulate Cassandra while her body has rotted away. Transfer of souls would be too much and her piece that Cassie ate having ability to take control would be even more ridiculous. I'm afraid that the answer is as simple as it gets and Roxanne is dead.
As for the question why she was the only one who remembered everything clearly, she probably had a mental stat as high as Irene's or Jean's and it was harder to wipe her memory out.
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Goral
I think that she was a sociopath this whole time and what we've seen was either her true nature or a mask that she put on in front of others. It's not like only sane people become Claymores. It's possible that Roxanne would have become a serial killer even if she was human.
As for the starting post, I doubt that Roxanne is still alive or present in some way, although it would be an interesting plot-twist. But I just don't see how Roxanne could manipulate Cassandra while her body has rotted away. Transfer of souls would be too much and her piece that Cassie ate having ability to take control would be even more ridiculous. I'm afraid that the answer is as simple as it gets and Roxanne is dead.
As for the question why she was the only one who remembered everything clearly, she probably had a mental stat as high as Irene's or Jean's and it was harder to wipe her memory out.
Well if Cassandra ate all of Roxanne what if those pieces just rejoined/Regenerated inside cassandras belly...and Roxanne is hiding her Yoki from Cassandra and the others cants sense her because of Cassandras large Aura could be? but she could be just dead
She also could be at the Org headquarters , i have a theory that she ejected her "real self" in one of those final claws/blades and what Cassy ate was nothing but a shell (and maybe her awakening has improved her yoki hiding ability to the point she can hide it completely(and for an AO its not that hard to believe)
regarding her Memory i think your right she must have had a strong will/her human part was strong
And to Roxanne being a killer if she was not a claymore...i can see it she was crazy even when she was n35...she just got worse as time went by
Re: Is it really the end for Love and Hate
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Goral
I think that she was a sociopath this whole time and what we've seen was either her true nature or a mask that she put on in front of others. It's not like only sane people become Claymores. It's possible that Roxanne would have become a serial killer even if she was human.
As for the starting post, I doubt that Roxanne is still alive or present in some way, although it would be an interesting plot-twist. But I just don't see how Roxanne could manipulate Cassandra while her body has rotted away. Transfer of souls would be too much and her piece that Cassie ate having ability to take control would be even more ridiculous. I'm afraid that the answer is as simple as it gets and Roxanne is dead.
As for the question why she was the only one who remembered everything clearly, she probably had a mental stat as high as Irene's or Jean's and it was harder to wipe her memory out.
Thats what i was thinking. Her personality and mind were probably too strong, and i bet Cassandra probably triggered some memories in Roxanne. To be honest Cassandra was all Roanne talked about, maybe she just rmeebered stuff about Cassandra nd nothing else?
