Wait, when was it shown that the fully grown Kyuubi was the same size as other bijuu? The only time we see them together is during the war, after Kyuubi had half its chakra sealed in Minato. The Kyuubi that attacked Konoha seemed much larger than the Ichibi that came out of Gaara.
1-The young Kyuubi has the same size as ALL the other bijus.
2-All the other biju's after growing up kept the same size (the diference in size between them) the same.
3- Nobody stated "hey Kurama how come you are at half size".... Not even 1 of the bijus...
So we have 8 other biju's who did NOT change as growing up then you belive Kurama did? Makes no sense. So what i am telling you is that for this to be invalidated we need them 1 next to the other when older and showing Kurama 2x the size and not the other way around...
Kurama was NEVER stated to be more powerfull because of its SIZE but because it has more tails. Even Kurama belived to be the stronger of them all because it had MORE TAILS... 8 tails even contradicted Kurama's belive in this area...
How is it "wtf" moment? THat's like me telling you I took away few apples, showing you a basket of apples, and asking you to guess how many there were originally and how many I took away. You can't guess because you don't know how many apples there were originally or how many were taken away. Same applies with the Kyuubi - you don't know how tall it was in comparison to the other bijuu before it had its chakra sealed. Hell, for all we know the bijuu's true size is 2x bigger than what we've seen when the jinchuuriki transformed. I think the turtle is the only bijuu we've seen free, and it was nowhere as big as the Kyuubi, if I recall. If you're confused as to what bijuu I'm talking about, it's the one that Deidara and Tobi got with Deidara's bakuton.
Diference is that compared to your example we do know how "many apples" we had originaly. We have Kurama next to its brothers as young bijus... Then we have the other 8 "apples" all growing up and keeping the size diference.
The tortoise could be viewed from a wrong angle. They where all showed in that special dimension they all share 1 next to the other and they where same size(well the ones that where actualy in there).
First off that hand that was left in the dirt (paw print) from when it whent smaller is not even well made. Going from the size diference it whent smaller by a greater degree then 50%...
That's not a fact at all, considering it seriously does look a lot smaller. When Kyuubi was freed from Kushina, both she and Tobi looked like tiny pricks and hard to see when Kishi was drawing Kyuubi standing. However, I don't think Gai or Kakashi looked that small when standing next to Hachibi or Kyuubi.
Let me show you something. 100% Kurama:
Head size comparison between Gamabunta and Kurama.... Now compare Gamabunta with Minato. Minato is the size of Gama's eye... So that means Minato is about the same size of Kurama's eye. Actualy Minato is a littel bigger then the eyes (Gamabunta's and Kurama's). Now Naruto in his mind world had the SAME SIZE compared to Kurama's EYE.
Kurama is not even way bigger then Gamabunta man... How the hell can it be 2x the size of OTHER BIJUS???!?!?!?!?!? Kurama is not 2x the size of Bunta lol.... Yes Kurama would be taller is it stand on its legs but that is because its a fox, it has longer legs.
No you have panels of it at the same size when they where little. Now stop comparin bloody trees. .. It can be influence by tree age, tree type. terain and a few other factors.
Proof? You only posted manga panels having it same size AFTER it had half its chakra sealed. I'm ignoring nothing, I even pointed out why I"m not using that as a fact or basis for Kyuubi having its whole chakra back. All we have to go by are comparisons. Kyuubi easily towered over the trees on four legs while Ichibi and Bunta were few meters taller than the trees.
When Kurama was showed next to Konoha's buildings it was bigger then a giant snake or a giant toad but not BY MUCH. Kurama is not even bigger then Bunta by a hight degree.
He said he sealed 50% because he could not do more. If he wanted to seal just Yang/Ying part of chakra he would not be dealing in how much i can seal. He would state i sealed 40% because that is the part of chakra that was yin or yang or whatever. The yang or ying chakra would have a predefined percentage out of the hole. If Minato just sealed as much as he could then it becomes imposible for him to have sealed just the part that he wanted.
Of course it's mind boggling to you. But how does Minato saying he sealed half of Kyuubi's chakra contradict what Jiraiya said? Minato never said he didn't seal ying or yang, or could have done so and meant half of its chakra.
So you are telling me Raikage, Tsunade, Minato and Kushina had NO BLOODY IDEA about what they where talking about and you need on screen panels with this actualy happening? All the above people stating this is enough evidence...
We don't know that it can be killed but regenerate. We take it as fact only because it was said so, but we haven't seen it in action, have we?
If killed it pops back in time. You can just delay it. Why do you thing RS sealed the Juubi in the moon and split the chakra? Because the Juubi would come back in time after he died... Oh and you do have this happening somewhat curently with the Juubi.
Well obviously i can give you posibilities. The most logical one was because Naruto as a baby could not handle that much power.
I did look at other factors, and I did show links and comparison about its size. Once again, why would Minato seal half of its chakra in himself when it'd just recover its chakra in few years?
Minato wanted to keep the biju balance. If that was possible by just sealing Kurama in Naruto.... Why the hell did he kill himself?
Also we don't know how long it would take BUT we can asume he wanted Naruto to start with a less powerfull biju so he can handle the chakra and as he grew up he could adapt to this chakra little by little.
Its like taking poison over time to increase your tolerance to it.
Kurama has long lags because its a fox. The snake and Bunta have low legs(well snakes don't). Now if a snake would strech out it would be taller then Kurama lol. Thing is compare the heads, eyes and so on.
I doubt the trees that Naruto and Killerbee fought the jinchuuriki in or the trees in Naruto vs. Gaara are taller than the tree on top of the cliff that Minato and Kushina were on, which Kyuubi easily towered over.
And like I said, Kyuubi was crouching pretty low, at least compared to the frog and snakes.
Take that monkey biju, it woudl have larger paw then Kurama as it is a monkey. Wolfes have smaller paws.
In the end not even here:
And Kurama does not look like having 2x the size of other bijus...
Mad? I am not mad. I just pointed out we have no reason to keep posting the same thing.
Don't be mad, we are discussing a manga
You can add to this the fact that Kurama in Naruto's mind is the same size as the other bijus. Well perhaps it would fall into your nr.1 but still.
It actually does, since your post is based on 2 things:
-Kyuubi is the same dimension than other Bijuus
-Naruto's Bijuu mode is the same as Kyuubi
For the first thing we have Kurama and the rest the same size as kids. The other 8 biju's kept the same diference as growing up. Kurama somehow ending up 2x the size of other bijus when its not even 2x the size of Bunta (look when Minato summoned bunta on Kurama and compare there heads).... Well it would make no sense.... Now bunta is 2x the size of other bijus to (well close to as Kurama is a little bigger).
Both aren't right, or rather the first is unconfirmed, and in the second you don't keep in mind that, in Bijuu mode, their chakra is melded, thus its not Kyuubi, but Naruto+Kyuubi.
Now you also have the same size when comparing Naruto and Kurama in his head. Naruto is about the size of Kurama's eye like the other bijus are. Kurama's paw also has the same size as the other biju's paws (ignoring the diference created by the diference in animals).
Now i don't belive Naruto's own chakra is used to create the chakra Kurama considering he does not end up tired when it ends. Now Bee stated that when Naruto is using Kurama's chakra he is using that and not his own. How much is minglend with Kurama i have no idea... Thing is you can be most sure that Naruto is not providing 50% of Kurama's chakra to give it 50% more hight.. Its just not possible. Hell Bee is doing the same thing so if Kurama would be bigger would Bee's form be also bigger? Its a diferent type of transformation true but Bee is also dumping chakra there.
Hmmz? Someone it has now the same size as ALL the other bijus and it somehow had the same size as the other bijus when Kurama was little... Hell you can explain to me how Bunta is also 2x the size of other biju's if we go this route. Well close to 2x ... Its actualy more like 1,5 for bunta. Ignoring feature that would make Kurama bigger as it is a fox and has longer legs. Bunta and Kurama have close to the same size in there heads. Kurama has longer legs and a longer torso as its a fox. Now if Kurama was 2x the size of other bijus it should have a head some 3 times as bigger as Bunta and for some reason it did not...
Naruto2011's post, on the other hand, makes a direct comparison between the sealed Kyuubi and the actual Kyuubi.
Fact is Kyuubi didn't grew one bit after 16 years
First off Orochimaru stated that Sarutobi was said to be... Like it was rumored. Anyway if we belive Orochimaru's claim why should we not belive Nagato's claim that he was God? Well he retracted his claim when he died stating that perhaps this is the will of the true God but why should we belive Oro just because we never had the oportunity to be proven wrong?
What Nagato being a God has to do with anything?
Orochimaru's claim wasn't disproven, neither it was a rumor since, again, Orochimaru wasn't a stranger, but was Hiruzen's prized disciple, as such he surely knew well his sensei. Would you argue that, say, Naruto doesn't know all there is to know about Kakashi? Or Shikamaru about Asuma?
Emm you think Naruto knows all of Kakashi's jutsus? All the tactics Kakashi can create and so on? All of Kakashi backstory? He did not even know about Obito... Yes i do belive Naruto does not know a TON about Kakashi and i do belive Orochimaru did not know a lot of things about his sensei... For instance he did not know about the DG seal... He did now know how much Sarutobi slowed down in his old age and so on...
So let me gues this streigh you first use a link of what Kakashi stated to back up your claim that what is impresive is the mastery behind the number of afinities but when i use Kakashi to show you it was about AFINITIES then it becomes a bad source of information?
As for part 2, Kakashi also thought Rikudou was a mith, that the Sharingan was derived from the Byakugan and so on
If, say, Madara, or Obito, or Hashirama would've said something like that I would agree with you, but Kakashi was disproven countless times. His knowledge is the average ninja knowledge, he also said, if I remember right, that FRS was impossible
And talking about hype and whatnot, Kakashi's comment was made to hype Kakuzu as well.
Point being, who is more believable, someone who knows all about Hiruzen, or someone who was proven to be wrong time and time again?
Now Orochimaru stated that its rumor and the fact that Sarutobi knows them. He did not state perform them. Also Orochimaru does not knows all about Sarutobi. I can prove you wrong there and easy. He did not know a lot of things about Sarutobi... DG seal, power level now that he is old, other information that Sarutobi would have learned (jutsus and other stuff) AFTER Oro left the village.... Also even when in the village i am sure Orochimaru did not know all the techs Sarutobi knew. Considering the number of them i don't see how he could. Ask Naruto and Sakura if they know all the jutsus Kakashi has and i am sure they would have no idea. Sure they know a bunch of them but to know them all? No way. Kakashi did not even tell them about Kamui to the point he used it. Obito aparently did not know about Minato's ST level 2 but that is probably because Minato developed it after Obito was "dead", thing is this would also apply to Sarutobi and how he could learn a lot of stuff or forget after Oro left the village. Heh Oro even addressed what other people where calling Sarutobi, the profesor as people belived he knew all the jutsus in Konoha.