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During his fight against kabuto- tachi mentioned one thing: each jutsu has a weakness, locating that weakness was itachi's strength.. so i think itachi is surely above obito

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2. if naruto is the most versatile shinobi then what is hashi/kakashi/sasuke,etc...

for full manga he has been showing us clones and rasengans. I dont think thats a very versatile...

Madara surely didnt get Hashi's sense of humour :D

just a thought sasuke doesnt have the amaterasu extinguishing eyes for nothing..

his entrance..saves the alliance by wiping out amaterasu..just a thought :)

i wanted to point out why people expect too much from him.

1. 1st Hokage- we all know what hashirama is capable of..so we dont need to comment on that
2. 2nd Hokage- edotensei, s/t jutsu, super awesome water jutsu, we dont need to comment what he was/is...

Nope...the doctor is very much like orochimaru in naruto....

i wouldnt have minded the jyubi transorformation, if there would have been considerable fight with each transformation, like that of frieza and goku (but even that fight felt dragged to me:P:P)
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Another thing on this forum that amaterasu is sure kill....

So itachi and sasuke can just about kill anyone because they have amaterasu.....

so just because itachi is super awesome, he can kill...

nope he is not messing up the rules he created...

If you dont have an affinity to a certain element, you can still perform the jutsu but that will not be as powerful as the element to which you...

1. elemental affinity

like many posted, one can have use more than one element.. the trick here was not quality of doton but the quantity....shikamaru just tried to create enough barier to stop...

Kishi gives fan service......

Deja vu for people of the leaf...teleporting bijudama's :D:D

Just a thght..wasnt it hashirama's dna that awakened rinengan???

m not sure whether one needs senju..hashirama dna seems to go into a totally different set altogether...

Aizen stab best explains it...it would really be stupid if any quincy is involved in it.....

Aizen is on-par with uruhara in terms of intelligence..so he wld hav realised wht kisuke did with ishin...

just think of it as one of the magic that is possible???

zirconis is a jade dragon and a big pervert.....he is yet to show his true colors.... the stripping magic is not his primary attribute, for...

consider aizen invisible stab????

i think rin was no longer minato's responsibility....

kakashi was jounin...and it was his team.....

If we take wht u said is correct then it was kakashi and yamato's fault that naruto's seal...

Now your signature has a literal meaning as well :D:D

kensei is very much like orochimaru :cheez

Everything ahead is based on some assumptions i have

1. Most people considered Ridoku to be a legend..kakashi mentioned it somewhere...so not comparing to uzumaki is evident
2. Somehow i believe...

just point in case:

konoha made a hokage who just knew s/t???

comeon get a grip on yourselves....

The scale tips in minato's favour when you say complete knowledge..since that allows him to...

ofcourse it will b reported to SS....

Only two things required are mokuton and sharingan to get the rinengan....
Moreover, the rinengan doesnt originally belong to so6p but inhereted from jyubi....

:no

After all the hype around the hokage it would be downright stupid to hav sasuke defeat all of them....

I am really sure tobirama knows about amaterasu....

leave hashi aside.....it would...

btw where is mavis now??

she seems to hav disappeared now...even though she is a master tactician....

I would really like to see the manga image where it is stated that senju and uchiha are the direct descendent of so6p..

If u read kushina's convo with naruto she specifically stated that uzumaki...

do put some consideration in it..

so6p had two sons- one got the body and the other got the eyes

has ever been stated that one son=senju and the other uchiha???

i find it interesting the...

I am sure you dont read naruto :P:P

alot of hype is being created around genocide of uchiha. anyone wondering what happened to the senju and uzumaki...they seemed to anhilated as well...

or did they just thght abt not reproducing...

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Maybe VOTE happened because madara unveiled his plan of eternal peace to hashi????

role of aizen= open the gates to the royal realm

OP might just be right...

consider this that all jutsus are considered to be arise from SO6P

if the sage belong to a clan who could access to all this then that clan was godlike....
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I think they are long gone into oblivion otherwise someone must have realised the uzumaki clan....

they were targeted by all villages to become the jinchuriki..

moreover uzumaki clan was...

I dont think its that easy to mutate shaingan to rinnengan...

if that was so...tobito would have got his own rinengan rather than take it from pein...

just a thought

What exactly happened to the uzumaki clan??

My theory:

Since the uzumaki were great in performing seals, they were the original jinchuriki and therefore, always under attack...

Moreover,...

kishi's definition of rare: spam the numbers after 50 odd chapters :P

Just thought of assessing how naruto as a character evolved from the starting, in terms of jutsus...


1. Stage -1

Naruto was not a genius, the only problem he had was the clone jutsu which as...

I might be wrong on this account because my knowledge of naruto is based on anime

Zabuza mentioned that earlier to become a chunin there used to be a test: "You had to kill someone", this practice...

There is a difference between scared by personality and scared by sudden surge power.
Hashirama just showed a surge in power

The funny part for me in last weeks manga was the sudden introduction of the power level concept.

If we remove the tobirama and hashirama, then till now there has been no-one in the whole manga...

If my memory serves me right Obito didnt mentor itachi to kill hs own clan, he just provided the alternative which showed that even wouldnt be able to save his brother. The reason why obito did that...

ya i read that..but i dunno abt the timing of the dvd..sorry but i just read the manga no anime/movie for me...

if that was before oro revival then we got a sage Resurrected

I dont exactl know when the interview was taken...but does oro counts as a sage?

1. If DNA does not consists any heredity information then how does it form a reliable source of relating one person to another..DNA test is considered to be a final proof of evidence to relate two...

It will go a little scientific but a DNA actually contains all the hereditary information. You can very well wiki about DNA and get the information.....

What I meant was Tsunade is the grand...

you got me wrong..

with fight against ichigo, zangetsu mentions that the blade is crying for attention but yachiru is always happy and loves to see ken-chan fight..if she is indeed is zanpakto...

ffs....dna contains the information of your forefathers..in short tsunade has hashirama's dna in her...surprisingly she doesnt uses wood element...

moreover...a simple uzumaki who is close...

I might be hijacking the thread but...all this time everyone has een blabbering about hashirama dna...but the easiest source of hashirama dna is tsunade...

Kishi knows how to troll....

in short oro will stay alive till sasuke is alive.. abit of senjutsu chakra on his curse seal and yoo... we have oro revived......