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Me? Probably not me, but it's a manga where everything is supposed to be more ideal than our reality allows. At least that's what they usually aim for in the end.
I agree that Nagato "had to die"...

What do you think the whole point was of Naruto not taking revenge on Nagato? Why the emphesis on "Naruto's way" this whole time, if only to discard it in the end?
It would be pretty sad if the...

So the point of this whole manga for you would be, there is no forgiveness? Kill and continue the cycle of hate forever?

I think it's nice that Sasuke is passionate about something other than...

This is something that I think needs to be explained, and hopefully will, because we still don't know exactly why Obito assisted in this massacre. Whether it was simply to get Itachi to join...

I edited my post above to adress that.
I can see why one would think so, but I feel this case is a lot more convincing and hard to reverse than Byakuya's. For example, he didn't speak to Rukia in...

Well there's also the "Did you know...?" inner monologue in this chapter from her. Something you tend to see in manga/anime right before someone dies, as they reflect on a fond memory of theirs, as...

To me it seems like her Bankai melts them all away (not an illusion) and Unohana healed them both. It seemed implied from when she said "You can't know why I mastered my (healing) kidou". Meaning...

Tobirama seems more of a direct approach leader who deals with things in short term, while Hashirama seems to be the kind who tries to make decisions that affect the world in long terms.
Like...

Very good chapter.

Now Kishi is actually making the Kage's seem as powerful as they were hyped up to be. Both in their chakra-presence display, and by mentioning that they weren't at full power...

I actually saw part of one of those, and noticed the animation style was completely different. When I first saw Kabuto, I wasn't sure if that was supposed to be him or someone else. Might check that...

I haven't watched the anime since the Sasuke vs Itachi fight, which was animated very nicely at times. I decided to check out this episode, but from the preview I've seen so far, the combat animation...

His ideals don't even make sense any more.

At the beginning of the manga, he told Neji to not let what happened to his father decide his future. That you could fight against this so called...

Neji is the best wingman.

As for the chapter, I couldn't understand half of what she was blabbering about. Guess I'll have to re-read it with different translations. But either way it didn't seem...

It's not like he decided right here at this moment that he's gonna put the entire planet under a genjutsu. Madara will tell his story, and convince him on top of what happened here.


Yeah that...

And then when the Konoha soldiers go there to find Kakashi, they'll be like. "Oh shit! Kakashi killed them all! Look at this bloodbath! He's one crazy mofo. Let's make him ANBU!"

I'm guessing probably because Kakashi fainted right after. He was problably unconcious by the time his eye awakened, so unlike Obito, he didn't remember the feeling of awakening his MS.
There was a...

Obito losing to Gai shouldn't say much about his potential though. Sasuke also lost to Lee with Sharingan. And this Obito didn't have Sharingan yet when he faced Gai.
Obito could perform Katon...

Oh, come on now. Kakashi's eye was given to him as well, but he's one of the most awesome characters in the series, in my opinion. Although the fact that Nagato turned out to be such a pawn is a...

Well, people lose all their vital signs and are brought back to life all the time on a daily basis in our world. So it's possible Obito lost all his vital signs as well until Madara treated him.
And...

Minato would probably not even attempt to teleport into a space that is already filled with other objects. (He expected Obito to be surrounded by rocks.) Who knows what would happen to Minato's body...

I just want to point out that Mangareader seem to have made two big mistranslations.

When Obito asked: To take care of your lower region? Madara answered:
Mangastream: ...If you would like......

Those are the numbers I presented as well. Now how does someone get "half a year" from that?
From those numbers it could be anything between a couple of days to just below 2 years.
Even if he...

Can you explain how you got that number? What part of the manga details any of these events in a measure of months that we can determine it to be something like half a year?

As far as I know, all...

There's no way for us to know exactly how that rock would affect his eye. But it is very much possible for an object of that kind of shape and size to damage the face and not the eyes, if it for...

Yeah, I particularly noticed this line:

"closest to him"

http://www.mangapanda.com/93-409-2/naruto/chapter-404.html

I used to think that he meant Itachi, but maybe he meant Madara.
Madara...

There are no plot holes in a story that has yet to be finished, as long as the writer still has time to explain things.
You should probably wait until after it's over before throwing that word...

A few chapters ago, someone (I fotrgot his name) posted some pages from Kakashi Gaiden and wondered if the person who said this wasn't actually Obito, and not Kakashi?
...

I wasn't trying to compare them here. Just saying that based on Kakashi's words, they both had above average talent. I didn't compare that talent, because we don't know when Obito first learned that...

Why don't you wait for the explanation before proclaiming that Kishi has abandoned a segment of the story that has yet to be explained? Not being able to figure it out isn't the same as the writer...

The statement seems to imply that a shinobi who hasn't yet matured into one who generally could pass the Chuunin exam, shouldn't have developed the chakra capacity to use the Katon jutsu. But Sasuke...

We really don't have a grasp of how fast someone can grow in terms of skills in this series. Especially when considering how who trains them, the methods used (Naruto using 1000 bunshin training), or...

No actually, it's Madara's plan as well. He mentioned the Infinite Tsukuyomi plan earlier.
http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/562/4

Well a lot of that applies to Nagato/Pain as well. But switch romantic love to friendship love, etc.
It's not a completely uncommon theme, even if Star Wars might have been one of the pioneers.

Turns out he was above average, because he could use Katon Gokyaku no Jutsu before becoming a chuunin. A test that is designed not to be passed by most people for a couple of years.
And it also...

What do you base that idea on?


Tobi still has a line under his eye. That it was 'bags' is something we can't determine.

http://i47.tinypic.com/51oqoz.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/302qw03.jpg...

I was thinking something along those lines as well. Also that maybe Obito originally didn't want to follow Madara's plan, but go back to Rin and Kakashi once he is healed up. But maybe Madara and...

No I get what you were saying. That Sasuke displayed it at an age even younger than Obito. And in front of Kakashi at a time a bit further back than what we saw from Obito. However, Kakashi didn't...

Be careful with assumptions. Madara being dead at the time is very uncertain. For example, we can't know for sure that Madara wasn't brought back in some way at some other time earlier that we don't...

What plot hole are you referring to? Equipping Zetsu parts seems pretty straight forward and simple. And if it's possible for time to pass slower inside the other dimension, if he only aged a couple...

1.) I doubt Tobi was the one who gave Nagato the eyes. He has mentioned Madara's deeds as his own before, so I wouldn't be surprised if what he said there was the same.
2.) Besides the fact that...

Awakening the MS seems pretty unrelated to being a genius or not. It awakens when you lose the person closest to you. Sasuke made a choice not to awaken his MS by cutting his bond to his friends. So...

Taking part in the Chuunin exams isn't the same as becoming a Chuunin though. Keep in mind that the only one who passed the Chuunin exam from Naruto's year was Shikamaru, I believe.
Obito, just like...

Apparently most readers, since Kakashi generally tends to get voted very high in the popularity polls.

http://www.otakuhouse.com/blogs/commentary/naruto-character-popularity-poll-2011/

Not sure...

Very well said. I too found the way the chapter was presented, with the silent flashback, very beautiful and artistic.

I always end up listening to this track when I'm reading special Naruto...

Regarding the idea that someone might be using Obito's body, someone made a good point earlier about that.



It's no definite proof, but it is a good point.

You misunderstand again. The scenario I mentioned would be Madara switching to new eyes from his EMS to a new pair before awakining the Rinnegan. And then awakening Rinnegan in those eyes. Giving...

No I remember it just fine.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/Hikusaak/Pain/Tobi/Rinnegan2.jpg

And exactly as I said, Madara specifically said "these eyes". That leaves things open for...

We see that Obito was talented in the flashback. When Sasuke first used the Katon Gokyaku no jutsu, Kakashi was extremely surprised that he was able to use it as a genin.

And we see here that...

Sure. Your signature becomes uncertain as soon as the second row.
"and gave Madara's Rinnegan to Nagato."
We don't know for sure who gave Nagato the eye. What Tobi claims to have done in the name...

Naruto is one of the most careless character in the manga. He often rushes in head first without thinking things through, to which Kakashi and others have stopped him from doing something stupid.
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