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    It does matter, because we don't know the duration of the paralysis, and we don't know if it had after effects.

    As far as using it against Manda, Manda broke out of it. You could argue it was...
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    And yet we have no idea what the genjutsu Kakashi used on the ANBU or Madara used on the alliance nin. So frankly this evidence isn't evidence at all until we know the details of the actual genjutsus...
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    They had no one breaking them out of the genjutsu, nor do we know the substance of the genjutsu unless I'm forgetting something. A "Sharigan genjutsu" isn't just a genjutsu that causes you to be...
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    You really aren't getting this.

    This has nothing to do with the power of the actual genjutsu, but the substance of what the genjutsu actually is. Breaking the genjtusu isn't an issue, it's the...
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    I'm not debating what Ghandi was and wasn't, I've been to college and taken course specifically targeted at people like MLK, Ghandi, Malcolm X, and many other revolutionaries. Just don't be confused...
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    I don't think it's an insult at all given the fact that Martin Luther King Jr. and Naruto have done questionable things and contradicted themselves in the same way Ghandi did in some aspects. As you...
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    Depends on what you consider a "great revolution", also depending on who you consider "great revolutionaries". Kishi's goal is to buck the trend of violence in the real world, he isn't being a...
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    Precisely. Claiming the Biju are like humans and deserve justice and don't deserve to be killed is a double edged sword, because they are also guilty of the same things humans are guilty of.
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    I don't see him killing the little guy, but using the big guys as examples as to what not to be...and then he kills them. Sasuke has never been about killing innocent people, but he'll gladly kill...
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    IMO, I think Sasuke's way of doing things is basically kill all threats to his new world order.

    I honestly think he has good intentions, I think he wants to be the champion of the little guy. I...
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    A less unfortunate genjutsu wouldn't have knocked her out afterwards, so I don't see your point. He needed to cause her enough mental trauma to essentially knock her out.

    As far the location of...
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    Sooooo....you rather Sasuke physically hurt her? Genjutsu made the most sense because it's non-lethal and it's the fastest attack Sasuke has. A chidori would have likely never landed because Naruto...
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    What Genjutsu lasts that long? Even if Kakashi doesn't have a lot of chakra, I'd stand to bet he'd have enough to break Sakura out of a genjutsu (it doesn't take much after all).

    I still think...
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    Your alternatives didn't prove anything. He needed a genjutsu that would incapacitate her for an extender period of times, not minutes, not hours, but up to a day in length which is what this fight...
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    You're the one who brought up indifference and all that. If he really didn't care about Sakura she'd have already been dead and her professing her love for him would have never happened. He took the...
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    If Sasuke truly was indifferent he wouldn't care if she interfered with their fight. This isn't about worrying about Sakura helping Naruto or anything, he doesn't want her or anyone else to get...
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    No, the Biju can do horrible things. They've all killed people before (and self defense isn't an excuse, that'd be like saying Sasuke used self defense when he killed the Samurai. Not to mention you...
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    The Genjutsu Sasuke used on Shi put him out of commission for quiet some time during the Kage fight. Sasuke has also used Genjutsu that killed the Cloud Shinobi who gave him Bee's location.

    The...
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    There are few excuses for his past actions, this one has a perfectly good explanation that Sasuke flat out tells us. He wanted to keep Sakura out of the fight.

    In the past he wanted to kill...
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    He stated he did what he did to keep her away from the fight. Again, he could have killed her but he didn't. What else would you of had him do when Sakura is one of the most irrational people there...
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    Look Sasuke is not "in love" with Sakura, but he does have some sort of feeling for her. It's not romantic, but he once appreciated her, and he now just took pity on her. However small, it shows he...
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    He's an asshole but the fact of the matter is he doesn't want anyone involved in this fight, he wants no distractions. He didn't do what he did out of love of Sakura, but to think he just did it to...
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    He's grown significantly, the issue you have is that you don't wish to acknowledge his growth because you disagree with him.

    When Sasuke was in Konoha and after he met Obito he was impulsive and...
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    You can grow into a bad person just as much as you can grow into a good one. Growth has nothing to do with morality, it just has to do with change.

    Sasuke was a sweet and loving child. He then...
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    I've continually talked about Sasuke's growth as a character and how because of his physical, mental, and emotional abuse and damage he is the way he is. Yet most like to ignore it because in the end...
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    We already saw it takes a few seconds for a Biju to do what you are implying...that is if said Biju can even realize it's Jinchuriki is in a genjutsu.
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    No there isn't, but Sasuke doesn't need a simultaneous genjutsu to reach a similar result. I didn't see the beginning of the discussion but frankly when the result is the same, it doesn't matter what...
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    Naruto was accessing the Kyuubi far more than I think you realize, not to mention by having it he could recover faster. Simply put, without the Kyuubi he could not do what he did with FRS. The Kyuubi...
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    Without clones he can't do it simultaneously, but given how fast he could put 9 Biju in a genjutsu, and how fast he could enter Naruto's mind (where Time doesn't work the same), I think it's fairly...
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    You have to be shitting me. Please go back and read the manga. Tenzou was there for the sole of purpose of making sure the Kyuubi didn't get out because Naruto was using it's chakra to make clones...
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    Naruto used it to summon Bunta, fight Sasuke at the VOTE, to train for FRS, to fight Kakazu, and to defeat Pain. Uncontrollable or not (he almost always controlled it, only times he didn't were...
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    He can create a lot of clones, but not nearly as many as he can with the Kyuubi, that's the point. And, again, FRS is impossible for him to learn with the Kyuubi.

    The Sharigan > Uzumaki heritage....
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    [Hangout] Re: Naruto 692 Discussion / 693 Predictions | No Chapter Until ~25th

    The similarity isn't comparable because the Kyuubi is a greater power-up than anything Sasuke has received until he gained his brothers eyes, and Naruto has had the Kyuubi since he was about an hour...
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    Naruto doesn't even learn FRS without Kurama, nor could he use Kage Bushin like he did. Sasuke was born with the ability to use the Sharigan, Naruto wasn't born with Kurama. Sasuke was a genius,...
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    The Senju were baby factories or so it seemed, Tobirama and Hashirama were from a big family. I find it hard to believe they suddenly didn't want to or couldn't procreate.

    As far as the Uchiha,...
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    No, but he has entered Naruto's mind before with just a regular Sharigan. He now has EMS and the Rinnegan, the chances of him doing that, they genjutsing the Kyuubi and coming out and doing the same...
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    Madara and Izuna were the first to awaken MS. Although the Sharigan gives the clan an advantage, the Senju were known to know many techniques, so just having the normal Sharigan (and not all Uchiha's...
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    You have to be kidding. We've seen how Izuna was killed by Tobirama. Sorry for not getting the scan but Tobirama cut down Izuna with Hirashin slash.


    No, my reasoning is that we know of way more...
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    Sasuke gaining power through others doesn't mean relies on them or actively fights with them. In the biggest battle of his life, he is now standing alone. He fought Itachi...alone. He took out...
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    Yes, the Uchiha are better, as a whole. The only reason the Senju were great was because of Hashirama and Tobirama. There's a reason the only famous Senju after their deaths was Tsuande, meanwhile we...
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    I think you fail to realize it wasn't ninjabot who made the initial comparison. He was simply showing that it is asinine to compare Naruto with Sage Mode to Sasuke with MS because Sasuke would murder...
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    Wanting to defeat him doesn't prove he felt inferior. My all accounts the fact that they were rivals means there were battels where Madara won otherwise the Uchiha and Senju wouldn't be equals.
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    Ironically, Sasuke's attitude of "I don't care what you think" is what Naruto has been spouting since Day 1 yet he doesn't get the same hate. I wonder why that is.

    Sasuke like Madara knows what...
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    Lol yea more less.

    Seriously though, unless Kishi is just looking to completely troll everything, the only way Sasuke can die is self sacrifice after redemption. Obito just played that card...
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    Never gonna happen. Naruto will succeed where everyone else failed, he will change Sasuke and they will rule together...someday.

    The young will surpass the old. Naruto will do what Ashura,...
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    Regardless of him touching him or not (he isn't touching him), for the excess energy to hit Sasuke Naruto has to damn near hit him. There isn't much margin for error there.

    When Sasuke and Naruto...
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    They have a superiority complex, not an inferiority one. Sasuke thought he was inferior, no other Uchiha has displayed such a trait. Sasuke felt he was inadequate compared to Naruto, but that isn't...
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    Sasuke has the most powerful eyes that have ever existed aside from the Sage himself, I highly doubt there's anything he can't see anymore. Madara existed on another plane of existence and Sasuke...
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    Given the fact Sasuke can see almost anything with his Rinnegan I don't think Naruto is going to surprise him with anything. I'd be shocked if he can't see Sage Energy as well.
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    This makes a lot of sense given the fact we know when Ashura faced off Ashura had an army and Indra was alone. Similar to when Madara and Hashirama fought when Tobirama wanted to kill Madara. I think...
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