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OK, my pic should give you my answer

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always

Exactly, Thoughout this thread, the debate about who was stronger Jiraiya/Itachi always was side tracked by who was stronger between Oro and Jir, but you put it plainly into view that it didnt matter...

You have your points, I would have to check about the anime, but I do believe some has been changed.

I retract the word all.... but I do believe some can be interpreted differently, via...

Hell ya, I HATE FILLERS

Okay, since no one wanted to help me out, I will cover all the points once again,

we just dont know enough,

we dont have a list of mission completed by either, dont have how much chakra they...

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You guys just confused the Hell outta me, I think I was out of this argurment too long........... I dont have time to sit here for hours and read your arguments so someone pls sum...

Itachi stated that there were 3 Including himself that were able to withstand the MS,

So like the nature manipulation cicle in itself?..... So Naruto can cancel out Sasuke's lightning, but Sasuke's fire can cancel Naruto's wind, but in turn Sakura's water could cancel out Sasuke's...

Thinking on a similar basis, I thought about this, and I think Naruto is just a solutary wind user too.... Wind tech is weak against fire, because Yamato says that wind feeds fire....but if you blow...

I dont think it would work that way, I think it just refers to the lack of the support the 10th ninja brings... Orochimaru may have had something to do with inventing the the demon sealing jutsu, but...

RIP..... Asuma-sama

K i am finishing this discussion, I will let you all know who she really loves, ....................................................ITS me lol

looks cool.... i want to read it

I dont think so but if he was it would be the eight tail snake demon..... but I dont think he his, it would explain lots of things but, :noworry :( :s :bored

I agree......

I think it would be cool to summon large cats, like tigers or ligers or lions

I dont know, sounds to complex, Naruto doesnt have enough control to do somethin like that

I dont know, at first I would have said hell no she couldnt be.... but now after reading the current chapters.... I think maybe she is, or something else, what about that twinkle in the hollow mask's...

Its the sealing jutsu that the 4th taught the 3rd and Jiraiya

So what, so am I X D

He is faster than a speeding bullet, he can leap tall building in a single bound, he can kill you just by looking at you, he can kill you just by pointing a finger, Dude he is like the Naruto's...

I like them all, the only one that is ? is Kiba, he kinda looks outta place, you know

Alright this is gonna start a big who ha, but Jiraiya would take Itachi out alright....point blank, no questions, Jiraiya was battling high level ninjas while Itachi was still in diapers.... So even...

His katana is bad ass, but he needs an under shirt

Alright I admit Hinata is awesome, and I hope we get to see more of what she can do, and maybe it will change some of my opinions

Man I hope so.... Personally I found the Bount arc very boring.... I much prefer the vazards and Azien, and Gin(cuz he is a bad @$$) and I want the fillers to end soooooo bad

Yea do so

It would explain why they all have a different kanji on all the rings, I do believe that they have something to do with the Leaders control over the statue and over the the rest of the members.... It...

Yea, and I understand that, but he need like those fish net shirts or something, and the black blade on his katana is just sick

They gotta be neutral, because being a vizard is being neutral between a death god and a hollow right, they are getting pulled into the war because they have to be, and they are gonna woop a$$, cuz...

Yea but there all going to have advantages over one or the other....Itachi might have an advantage but who say that Tsunade wont have the advantage over Orochimaru and Itachi..(Hyp. speaking of...

But he only held the title the longest because of the untimely death of the 4th... I think he was an overall jutsu specialist, but I think in power wise the 4th took hold, but maybe the 1st and 2nd...

You guys are off topic

LOL man you wish

Okay Temari is awesome, but she has that kinda I am queen bi*@h thing going on, at first is was cool, but now she is all acting like she doesnt like shiki and taht she wouldnt jump on him given the...

Man you guys are all Haters.... Sakura man, gotta love that pink hair

I do too, its just a ummm... a freak coincidence that I think he is the strongest and he is my favorite Sennin

How bout the 1st, created the village hidden in the leaves, controls wood, which is awesome, so I dont know a tie for me for the 1st and 4th

thanks

Yea but Dark, we still dont know what the extent that infatuation was, people will do crazy things when they THINK they are in love... I wont say that her infatuation didnt end with the timeskip but...

Alright then, if the 4th used the hiraishin and some other ninja tried to use kawarimi, who would win, the kawarimi seems fast because of the planned action, the ninja using kawarimi knows that he...

Dont take so much in what is Kishi writes but how he puts it in front of us... He puts all the clues right in front of everyone, we just have to read between the lines

You know this is an arguement that could go on forever, the facts are all there in the manga, Jiraiya is stronger than Itachi and Kisame, Like I said earlier, Jiraiya would never had locked himself...

Yea, but still Shiki is the best, he is gonna wipe the floor with Hidan and get promoted to Jonin

I know seems so easy, the simple terms work the best

I know Huh

Who do you think? The 4th of course, no body beats the 4th.

For one, the fights between Jiraya and Orochimaru are bad comparsion cuz Jirayia held back, but Itachi and Kisame fighting with him would be a bad idea, do you think that if he was worried that...