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*shrug* I remembered seeing somewhere that it was.... maybe it was just filler info from the anime that wasn't present in the actual manga. If that's the case, then thanks for the correction. The...

I think the reason the name Supernova is given is because these "stars" in the pirate world grow bright all of a sudden while they travel through and survive the pirate graveyard that is the grand...

Don't take this personally; it's not just you. This is just anecdotal evidence that I have kept track of from the different forum sections that I read through sometimes as a fan of some of the...

There's actually a reasonable explanation for this. Revolutions are usually planned and carried out in secret because of the sensitivity of the implementation. A lot of what goes on happens behind...

The fact that One Piece actually tops the charts gives it's fans something called "bragging rights" which is exclusive for whoever is at the top. This doesn't necessarily make it classy but people...

If One Piece really is in Raftel, then yes, the one who reaches it becomes Pirate King :). But Luffy didn't even let Usopp ask Rayleigh if that was where One Piece was; so conveniently, this may or...

Personally, I'd prefer to be a pirate with the restriction that its the same kinda pirate that Luffy is (as opposed to Blackbeard). One Piece gives two distinct diverging paths for pirates: one that...

There is indeed romance in One Piece.... just not the kind that gets girls and boys together to make families :teehee.

The whole theme of One Piece revolves around the romance of chasing after...

Could you please elaborate on this statement? I find it kinda contradictory. Isn't the concept of "someone who's seriously into mangas" also a subjective/relative distinction? I mean, where do you...

Tastes are tastes.... everyone's entitled to their own. There's no need to say anything to people who say they hate One Piece; except maybe to keep their objections to themselves if it's offensive....

It may turn out that something like "hearing the voice of all things" can trump observation haki since observation haki is limited to living things. I would think this ability (hear voice of all...

@Kaiten
For the longest time, for some reason I had this idea that the red line got wider towards the north and south of the grand line in to a continent. That's why I was thinking there may be...

Make him take the chunin exam again (since he's still a genin) and make all the parts written tests. :teehee

This is true, which is why I said it would be nice if we knew more of Itachi's and/or Shisui's lives as a contrast to see how they became so powerful without being hateful. I also wasn't saying...

That's pretty much what I was trying to say, only that when I saw this thread I saw everyone hating on Tobirama for some reason. I was just interested to know the reasoning behind it. Personal...

I understand what you're saying... Its not that I'm disagreeing with you. I'm just saying that its something Kishimoto seems to have written into the story. Whether it makes sense or not, that's...

All of those explanations for each case you gave are valid. But that's still getting away from the point by explaining it away. The whole reason that most Uchiha were nice people and didn't turn...

That's basically what I was trying to say :) sorry if it came out backwards lol. I don't read/watch One Piece for the action, but for the story and plot. Not that I don't enjoy the action but...

I think it's a little more subtle than that. First off, I have to say I have no particular dislike towards the Uchiha (just for the record). Also for the record, I don't blame them solely for their...

As a shounen, I guess the audience (on average) is more interested in action. But I think Oda actually wants to tell a great story to the audience while using the action to hold their attention. In...

This is also the best explanation I can think of for why they wouldn't have shown up for the war. I also have a hard time imagining why any military force on land would be called "marines" so there...

I agree about the wisdom bit. Unfortunately, unlike knowledge, wisdom isn't something that can be passed between people, but learned through experience. And not everyone gains it at the same pace. ...

If you mean Gen-san, I think he was just the local police guy. Makes me wonder though, if there was a land army and they had powerful people in it, they probably should have showed up at the...

I'd guess the land troops are under the command of a Field Marshal that may be introduced later on under the command of Kong, the commander in chief. I dunno how likely any land troops will be shown...

I wasn't attempting to explain anything to you, but kkck did a great job explaining my point of view (probably better than I did). If you claim that you're point of view is coming from such a...

It's pretty funny how you went from:



to:



after reading other peoples' responses and never explaining your first accusation. If you don't get how trauma affects people, you're not...

@shahdan
Umm.... If you missed the previous number of posts of discussion I can't really help you. I'm not going to repeat myself or quote all the things said in the back and forth. You're already...

http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/619/14

I'm taking Sasuke's word for it.... and Tobirama's explanation afterwards. You're still stuck in the pre-village era if you're still talking about the...

Thanks for pointing that out. I completely forgot he said that too.

@so6pww
I didn't think that a prison being at the place where the Uchiha were moved to was the actual problem but the fact...

Maybe I'm wrong in my judgement, but even though I never saw Tobirama show any love for the Uchiha, I didn't see him particularly hate them just for being Uchiha either. Treating them equally would...

So you just don't buy the "curse of the Uchiha" reasoning for it then? If you think Tobirama did it just because he doesn't like the Uchiha clan, your reason for believing he's intolerant would make...

It may be boring in the context of a shounen manga :) but in the heat of battle, a moment's hesitation can be the difference between victory and defeat. Marco and Jozu taking damage during the...

I'm kinda puzzled by this statement so I actually looked it up just to be sure because it didn't make much sense. According to the dictionary, bigoted means to be intolerant of a group of people...

I guess I misunderstood and also wasn't all that clear earlier... I meant about Impel Down, etc. that there's a chance the landscape was different at some point before the void century (Water 7 where...

@Rikudou King
That's pretty much what I wanted to learn from this discussion. :) I can accept people just disliking the guy for his character. It's not like I'm a fan of Tobirama or anything, but...

It's possible Tobirama thought that if another Madara showed up after Hashirama was dead there would be no one capable of dealing with it. But that's still just speculation on my part. I guess...

That's a good question. Personally, I don't think there's any good justification for it except to just say like Sasuke did that Tobirama was traumatized into thinking that way. That doesn't excuse...

When we really get down to the topic, its really interesting to think about what it could be. At least until there are more clues given, or he's introduced outright, anybody's guess is just as good....

I agree that he's at fault, but I don't believe he's guilty of it (actual guilt) because he didn't make those choices with the intent of the result. But getting to the actual heart of the topic,...

I've been thinking that Conqueror's haki does indeed have use against more powerful opponents. I noticed how everybody at Marineford from Sengoku to Whitebeard, Aokiji, and Ivankov looked shocked...

@Rikudou King
Thanks for posting those pages which you were reffering to :). The way I see it, Tobirama did two things (which I take as two separate actions that were done simultaneously) that...

Actually, the first hole you pointed out may not really be a hole. :) It was explained in chapter 105 that even though everything in the grand line is chaotic, the mineral rich islands in the grand...

@Rikudou King
I agree with you on the mechanics of Edo Tensei and your reasoning for why it wasn't used. But you're going way off topic and missing the point I was trying to make by going into a...

Yamata no Orochi is actually an attack used by Sandersonia of the Kuja pirates (when she was fighting Luffy). I guess there's no reason why it wouldn't also be the model for a character though.

All I have to say is..... he better not be Pandaman :derp

Okay seriously I have no clue. I wouldn't mind if he turned out to be any of those above options. But it'd be interesting if he was an...

@M3J
Thanks for clearing that up/refreshing my memory. I'm getting a better understanding of what happened based on the chronology now. So Tobirama moved the Uchiha clan to the outskirts of the...

Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm not too sure myself) but from what I remember chronologically, it was stated that the Uchiha clan was suspected and spied on by the village only after the Kurama attack...

Everything you said there is pure opinion... I'd go as far as to say the manga contradicts them factually. Things about Tobirama's teachings getting passed down to his students is pure conjecture...

I like the theory :^_^... not exactly what I expected; for example, I'd have trouble with what would happen if a planetary sized chunk of the map is just blown to smithereens. Aside from that, I...

Please elaborate on this statement. The point that he was prejudicial isn't debatable since he was clearly stereotyping but there's a disconnect between how anyone can claim it led to the conflict. ...