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The title says it all. Could Allen Walker be the thirteenth member of the Noah Clan?
1) The dream sequence from chapter 59.
~ While trying to reach a crying Lenalee, a dark figure grabs Allen, preventing him from
reaching her. All the mysterious figure states is "You can't..." Is the figure trying to
suppress Allen from coming out? Also, the destruction of main Black Order HQ was hinted
so maybe Allen is responsible for its downfall and the figure doesn't want him to know this
due to guilt.
2) Allen's dark side
~ Allen isn't a pure hero and his dark side does come out every so often. When it does come
out, he resembles a Noah since he has a similar smile and sinister presence.
3) The title of the manga
~ Hoshino mentioned that the title dealt with Allen and a certain group of people. The Noahs
have a black and white side. By combining both of these colors, you form gray. Hence, the
title "D.gray-man" or "the gray man" might refer to the combination of both sides of a
Debate is welcome of course
...for further thoughts.
I think it's very likely - we've seen, especially in recent chapters, that the Noah are also human. It wouldn't mean a huge character change for Allen to be one. Boric's flashback also showed that Noah aren't born directly as Noah. The idea could easily work in the context of the manga. As for the likelihood... well, why not? Having the main character become a villain/on the villain's side halfway through the manga is pretty unusual, not to mention interesting. It'd certainly provide interesting conflict, since Noah and Exorcists are trying to kill each other.
As was mentioned in the posts that, um, inspired this topic - I think the betraying Noah should still be considered in these discussions, though. The timing (among other things) of those events make it awfully convenient for the Noah to be Mana, who Allen obviously had connections with. Also, those facts are revealed right before we see Allen about to board the Ark. It could just be a manga thing, but to have one right after the other...
...ahhh, I don't know what I'm saying anymore. I just think there's very little reason for Allen NOT to be the 13th Noah.
Meh, I would rather think that Mana gave his Noah powers to Allen, or that simply, the dark side within Allen is the curse (or both). Allen could be a Noah but it just doesn't sit right with me, it would be better if he just had the Noah's powers because of Mana.
Did I just kill half the subforums? w00t!
allen doesnt have super super human abilities like the noah besides his innocence so he cant be a noah. if he did turn into one, that would be stupid.
a) Destroyer of the Millennium Earl -OR-
b) Destroyer of the Future aka end of humankind
We know that there are two gods-- one is the true God while the other is the devil. Wouldn't it make sense that both gods would love Allen thus counteracting the other's effect?
And how on earth would Allen becoming a Noah be stupid? Just because a bunch of us believe that in this theory doesn't mean that it's stupid. Debate doesn't mean flaming others' idea.
Hmm...in exception of the fact that i like the idea there's something i remembered:If im not wrong road saw and told allen that the soul of the akuma that was going to explode was dying..so if noahs can see akumas souls and the skull of mana in Allen's eye is what gives him that ability i dont thing the teory of mana being a noah and giving allen his power is stupid. =D
Leave that point three out, because hoshino herself mentioned about the name d.gray-man. She said it had no meaning at all, she was just thinking several names and it was d.gray-man that came up out of several options. But no meaning for her...
About allen's dark side? Well allen has gotten some difficult moments, but somehow he always know what to do. Eg: eliada and the mana part, but for me the best parts stays when the akuma level three fought allen. Allen couldn't get his innocence back, untill he remembered why he fought against akuma - it was for the captured soul suffering in that machine, for the humans tricked by the earl...
As for now too, allen restored his weapon against tiky by good thoughts. It was easy said: tiky can not destroy anyone innocence, tiky can not destroy the humans.
Allen has become stronger then before, and he'll become stronger and stronger by pure and good thoughts. He even dealt with the loss of mana...
So my answer on whether allen being a noah? No (though I like suprised and I would see how to fit it in the story). For me allen is just the heart of the innocence, and hevlaska could only feel him being the destroyer of time because she didn't feel allen's true form of innocence
But Allen restored his arm by thinking of being an Exorcist, having power, and existing - I wouldn't say those are "good thoughts" specifically. I mean, I suppose they're decent enough, but it's not like he's thinking about saving the world or anything. At the same time, the Noah also think they're right. They're human too. The main difference between Exorcists and Noah is who they fight for, right? Essentially?
And as for the Heart, Allen being the only Heart doesn't explain Rinari's Innocence. Which DEFINITELY needs some more manga screen-time.
From dgm volume three talkroom:
"Q3. What does the title D.Gray-man mean?
A. It’s a phrase I made up myself; it has many meanings. It can be used to refer to Allen, but it also fits the other characters... By the way, before D.Gray-man was decided as the title, the one I thought of before that was “dolls”, and before that were “クロノワ” [Kuronowa = Chrono War?] and “ZONE”. "
source: exorcist order
Some people are looking it too far
I won't discuss in here anymore, because all things even my allen being the heart theory is so vague. There's so less known about mana, cross, the traitor noah,...
I'll just says, I don't reject the allen being a noah theory (I have always said I liked the idea, and it would suprise me a lot). But I can't say anything on it, so all I am going to is wait till hoshino reveals more
Last edited by Koen; April 27, 2007 at 04:20 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
I'm afraid I can't say I'm a believer of this theory, although it's very cool and I certainly wouldn't be disappointed if it came out this way! I am very anxious though to have more revealed about the Noahs. There seems to be too much still that's secretive about them, and somehow I get the bad feeling they won't come to a good end.
Well I HIGHLY doubt that GENERAL Allen Walker could be a Noah.
If Noahs could use Innocence then the Noahs have as good as won the war.
I think the other side of Allen is the physical manifestation (instead of being merely an eye the curse has a physical form inside Allen's head, and we'll be able to delve into that later) of the curse he recieved from Mana
Similar to Ichigo and Hollow Ichigo. Two contradiciting forces in one body.
*Imagines a VERY sinister Allen, but turns so kind and shy when poker is mentioned* XD
On a side note: the Reverse Novels are being turned into Fillers for the anime...
But the Noah are humans who didn't know about the other side (presumably) - if Allen IS a Noah, there's no reason for him to want to pick the Noah side over the Exorcists. Technically, he'd be forced into it. Anyway, he's probably the odd one out; I doubt any other Noah could use Innocence.
Still be interesting - even more so, now. ^_~