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    The Legend of the Tailed Beasts by Dyroness.

    Taken from Narutofan forums. I thought this was very interesting. Notice the types of animals some of them are. Weasel(6 tail) and Shark(3 tail). Coincidence that "Itachi" means Weasel? or that "Kisame" is a shark?

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    EDIT: This was researched and written by Dyroness from Naruto Forums. It's said that it is actually a mix of authentic Japanese mythological accounts AND imaginative Chinese fanfiction, so be forewarned that Kishimoto may not actually be using this information exactly to inspire his Naruto series. - GK
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    Re: The Legend of the Tailed Beasts.

    This has been around for a while and is definetly interesting/entertaining. However, my understanding is that it is a mix of traditional Japanese folklore and creative fan fiction.

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    Re: The Legend of the Tailed Beasts.

    It was actually on Wikipedia when I checked it a while back which was cool.
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    Re: The Legend of the Tailed Beasts.

    according to this legend, orochimaru HAS to be the eight tails.
    we heard about this rebirth story of the snake with white skin.
    eight tails was reborn as a human, orochimaru. his true form is this big snake we saw as he battled against sasuke. sasuke sealed orochimaru in him and now sasuke is the jinchuuriki of the eight tails. the eight tails was fighting with the kusanagi against the nine tails. it has to be this way...
    and in the end of naruto there will be an epic battle between sasuke and naruto and at the end of this battle naruto will sill stand, while sasuke doesn't ;-)

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    Re: The Legend of the Tailed Beasts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    It was actually on Wikipedia when I checked it a while back which was cool.
    Having something posted on Wikipedia does not make it legitimate or valid. Plus, your post was from NF...

    Anyway, this "guide" is in no way Naruto Manga canon. It takes the mythology and adds a creative spin so that it aligns itself with Kishimoto's story.

    Again, it's an interesting read, but people shouldn't consider this to be fact in relation to Naruto.

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    Re: The Legend of the Tailed Beasts.

    kishimoto has been using Japaneses mythology to add lore in naruto, its what sets his story apart from its counterparts. however i dont see it affecting the storyline too greatly in the sense of kishimoto is rewriting the mythology for a modern audience.

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    Re: The Legend of the Tailed Beasts.

    Quote Originally Posted by MadDog View Post

    Again, it's an interesting read, but people shouldn't consider this to be fact in relation to Naruto.
    People should consider all information.
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    Re: The Legend of the Tailed Beasts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    People should consider all information.
    Yeah, people should consider all sources of information when drawing conclusions. They should also consider the validity of the information.

    "The Legend of the Tailed Beasts" is a mix of traditional mix of Japanese Folk Mythology and fan fiction that's been twisted to fit in with the Naruto storyline. When making an informed conclusion, it is always good to know that the information being provided isn't necessarily concrete fact.

    However, I reccomend that people check out what you've copied and pasted from NF, at least, since it is a well written, good read.
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    Re: The Legend of the Tailed Beasts.

    Quote Originally Posted by MadDog View Post
    Yeah, people should consider all sources of information when drawing conclusions. They should also consider the validity of the information.

    "The Legend of the Tailed Beasts" is a mix of traditional mix of Japanese Folk Mythology and fan fiction that's been twisted to fit in with the Naruto storyline. When making an informed conclusion, it is always good to know that the information being provided isn't necessarily concrete fact.

    However, I reccomend that people check out what you've copied and pasted from NF, at least, since it is a well written, good read.
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    Re: The Legend of the Tailed Beasts.

    I've already posted/linked to this information elsewhere in this forums a long time ago, though within a thread.

    Dyroness was a good friend of mine and spent a lot of time researching and writing these "mythological bijuu characteristics" so out of respect for the time she's spent on this, I'm going to edit the thread title to include "by Dyroness."

    I suppose it's deserving of its own thread, but MadDog is right. While it certainly sparks your imagination and everything, Kishimoto is likely referencing to some other sources rather than ones that's been mixed with Chinese fanfiction. But if you guys can find any more on the "true accounts" of these myths, by all means post and discuss further.

    EDIT: Nevermind, I see there's another thread on Japanese Myths. That's where you would post about it. This thread can be discussion about whether things in the Naruto series has corresponded to the Legends as laid out here I suppose.

    (Personally I think the only really close similarity is the Kyuubi. :/)
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    Re: The Legend of the Tailed Beasts by Dyroness.

    I think their names mean which Bijuu or tailed beasts they are supposed to harness.


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    Re: The Legend of the Tailed Beasts by Dyroness.

    Well, I hope I didn't come across as too critical in my previous posts. I really do think it is a nice piece of work by Dyroness that deserves respect.

    Here's something that caught my eye a few chapters back. In chapter 354, Kisame and Itachi capture the older 4-tail Jinchuuriki, "off screen" without us seeing the battle, or the Yonbi in action.

    While we don't get to see what type of creature the Yonbi is (in Kishimoto's vision), there may be a hint in chapter 355.

    On page 1, there is a close-up of the statue on the rooftop where Naruto and Co. have gathered.



    This is clearly a rooster, which partly matches Dyroness' description of the Yonbi, being half rooster/half snake.

    What makes me think the statue is supposed to represent the 4-tail? On page 6 of the chapter, it appears that the statue has 4 tails as the Konoha-nin take-off from the roof.



    Anyway, thought I'd share this as it might tie into the research on the mythological bijuu characteristics. Not sure why there woud be a 4-tail statue, but I don't think that Kishimoto would focus our attention to a background detail for no reason.
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    Re: The Legend of the Tailed Beasts.

    Quote Originally Posted by MadDog View Post
    This has been around for a while and is definetly interesting/entertaining. However, my understanding is that it is a mix of traditional Japanese folklore and creative fan fiction.
    Yes - it's a piece of fiction based on traditional folklore (that many did not know about growing up either).

    I highly doubt that Kishimoto takes this folklore seriously - it may be just a source of creative inspiration.

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    Orochi - 8tailed beast

    I could not find any reliable references in japanese or chinese mythology that the following have tails.
    5th, 6th and 7th tails. there are stories circulating in the web about the possible other tailed beast. i could not verify their sources. anyway, i going to search for more clues for other tailed beasts

    except for Yamata-no-Orochi - 8 head + 8tailed beast.

    Possible 8th - Yamata-no-Orochi (八岐の大蛇, "big snake of eight branches"; often called Orochi or the Eight-Forked Serpent in English), is a dragon- or serpent-like creature in Japanese mythology.
    The monster is described as having eight heads and eight tails and eyes as red as winter-cherries. It is so long its body extends over eight valleys and eight hills, its belly is always bloody and inflamed, and its back is covered with hikage (clubmoss), hinoki (Japanese cypress), and sugi (Japanese cedar).
    Orochi also have the legendary sword, Kusanagi-no-Tsurugi, in his belly.

    Orochi
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    Orochimaru is based on Yamata-no-Orochi. Couldnt stop thinking he could have connections to the 8 tailed beast. He probably got his summons from him or sumthing. He was probably assigned to capture the 8tailed beast in Akatsui.

    baahhh... enjoy
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    Re: Orochi - 8tailed beast

    why do you have the picture of the doomguard? it has 0 relation to anything lol...


    i'm pretty sure this has already been discussed, and although I personally think it would be cool, it's kind of agreed upon that he is NOT the 8 tails.
    although, it does kind of link up with why he left akatsuki. but not really that much... there could be all manner of reasons (eg itachi rejecting his man love advances) for him to leave that don't involve him being the 8 tail.
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