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Translations: Gintama 515 by kewl0210
in this new chapter (397) it indicates something about Ichigo's birth, so this must mean that Isshin is some one important or that (this is very unlikely) Ichigo is the key to get into the king's world, but his powers need to grow so that it's basically 1 spirit mile of souls in him and that could be the reason for the massive power
Isshin is Ichigo's father im sure, I think the secret to his power and Aizen interest in him is from his mother's side. Aizen set things up to have her murked. Wouldn't be shocked either if Aizen is indeed Isshin brother/rival/old friend or something.
Also im curious if Yuzu and Karin will inherit similar powers?
Like how Shinji's shikai was hinted from the very second he was introduced: http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/184/05/
I'm sure it was discussed before, but I didn't find it. Reading last chapters I noticed some similarity between Aizen's and Isshin's Zampaktous. Compare the guards:
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/171/10/ (and next page)
Could it hint on some similarity in powers?
Another, maybe pointless note is the similarity between Aizen's and Hirako's shikais. Namely, Kyoka Suiketsu requires to see its release, Sakanade, as it appears, works through some kind of smell:
What will we have combining these two? Actually, I don't know, maybe nothing. But my best guess is: Aizen and Isshin are definitely connected, maybe blood-connected, which gives them "twin" (or parent-child?) Zampaktoes. Isshin's shikai is also sense-based and it requires to touch the opponent (or his sword) for the effect to take place. As for the effect... weeeelll, Kyoka seems to be able only to place illusions on persons or itself. Maybe Isshin's Zampaktou works like Izanagi from Naruto (or kinda like Jasdevi from D.Gray-Man: dgrayman.wikia.com/wiki/Jasdevi), it casts illusion on the owner and makes it come true, like, boosting the power of the user only to the level he can imagine, literally. Just a random guess, to tell the truth, but it can explain, how Isshin can send Aizen flying with a poke.
Where did you get this information? I think it wasn't stated something like this in the manga...Quote:
My guess about Isshin is that he was ex 11'th Division captain or from the Royal Guard, but at this state practically every theory is quastionable.
Last edited by Jorge D. Dragon; April 04, 2010 at 02:55 AM.
why are you ppl so easily swayed, now ppl are wondering if isshin is really ichigo's father. Firstly i dont believe that isshin is from the zero squad, the shiba clan, related to aizen or the royal family. i believe he was the 10th squad kenpachi, if you look back to the tbtp arc the 10th squad captain is noticable not present, shinji can be found stating in the anime ep 206 that he doesnt know the him which ties in with when he and ichigo felt that strong unknown reiatsu in karkura town. plus his attitude of being laid back and not really interested in the shinigami dealings notable from his absence in tbtp arc ties in with isshin's behaviour. finally the only point of weakness to this theory is how did zaraki gain the captaincy, yes it is stated that he defeated the previous kenpachi but i think there is more to it that has not been revealed to us yet. what do guys think?
First welcome to Manga Helpers.
Your idea is not new, its been stated before by lots of people. Add it to just one of the many theories shrouded around the mystery that is Isshin K.
Although almost anything is possible at the moment, I think its more likely he is from the royal guard. Just my opinion.
Well, since the recent turn of events, everyone seems to be under some kind of spell by Tsukishima's fullbring, even most of the other Fullbring users, and I am just curious as to where Ichigo's father is and how he will fit into all of this along with Urahara. The last time we saw him was some chapters ago with Urahara and some mysterious shinigami so I am just wondering what is going on with him. I believe, or atleast I hope that he also isn't under the spell of Tsukishima's fullbring.
I got a hunch that Isshin will be the last person revealed to Ichigo, likely all hell will break loose before we see them meet again.
Also the question, what is Urahara up to? He might also have an agenda on his own, perhaps giving Ichigo a chance, since he may disagree with Isshin (assuming Isshin is under Tsukishima's fullbring ofc).
Just thoughts, im sure it's something entirely else.
Isshin lost his powers at around the same time he married Masaki, didn't he? It also coincides with the time Ginjou disappeared. It seems a series of events happened which cost Isshin his powers and changed Ginjou's view about shinigami. IMHO the badge is just the tip of the iceberg, there is something more important which deeply affected Ginjou and made him loathe shinigami. Isshin keeps it a secret and he doesn't want Ichigo to learn about it. Ginjou thinks Ichigo might have thought differently if he was in his shoes.
Even though the popular theory is that Isshin lost his powers after using FGT, I think there's the possibility that Urahara has something to do with it, why did he tell Isshin not to blame him? Did Urahara conduct an experiment to give Isshin the ability to have children, is this why Isshin lost his powers? Ginjou is the first substitute shinigami, so it was most likely Urahara who found a method that allows shinigami to have human children.