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Thread: Isshin Kurosaki General Discussion Thread

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    Re: Isshin Kurosaki General Discussion Thread

    I noticed something interesting about Isshin from an interview that Kubo did, look at the last but 1 answer here

    Notice it says that he didn't plan to make Isshin one of the leaders.

    So I think that he was one of the most important shinigami in SS, what do you guys think
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    Re: Isshin Kurosaki General Discussion Thread

    In one of the interwies it was stated that Kubo will explain, why Ichi and Kaien look so alike. Hence it seems that both Ichi and Isshin belong to Shiba Noble House. So it might be that Isshin actually was the head of said House. And obviously he was a Captain.

    In one of the interwies it was said that the connection between him and Shunsui and Uki will be explained. So at least it seems that Isshin was from the same generation as Shunsui and Ukitake or even older.

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    Re: Isshin Kurosaki General Discussion Thread

    Kubo said if Isshin, instead of Urahara, had requested help from SS to regenerate Ichigo's shinigami powers, some facts about Isshin might have been revealed. There's a possibility that Isshin will go to SS to help Gotei 13 against quincies, I think some mysteries about Isshin will come to light after this invasion is over along with information about why Ichigo is true-blood.

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    Re: Isshin Kurosaki General Discussion Thread

    This true-blood fact will probably have something to do with him being immune to that stealing bankai thing... but well, slowly I'm more and more inclined to absolutely believe in the Shiba Isshin theory (and the Quincy Masaki theory)... but what we haven't figured out is why is the Shiba house now "exiled", and why is Isshin out in the human world and all. That should also be important for the future...

    Well, so far I think that Isshin is an old generation, pre-Uki and Kyo even, but thinking about the fall of Shiba clan, I'm thinking whether it had something to do with Isshin and Quincies business... :/ It's not very likely, as no one mentioned Kaien's big awesome important brother in those flashbacks, and all, so the chance is almost null.... yeah the more I think about it, it's not really possible XD Just confused myself again

    I guess we'll know everything... at some point in the future XD


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    Re: Isshin Kurosaki General Discussion Thread

    I hope it will be revealed sooner as we don't only want to see fights, but also like to see great storytelling and plot development.
    And Isshin now is one of ther most interesting and most important parts of the plot as he tie tons of different things together as his past is tied with most of SS guys and also with Quincies and of course with Ichigo, his sisters and Masaki, so we will obviously learn who actually was Masaki and if Isshin really was the head of Shiba Clan, then we will learn why Shiba Clan had fallen and why Isshin resides in Real World.
    I really hope Isshin, Yoruichi and Tessai will come and help SS as aside from them and Ichi there are no strong enough guys to help and SS faces an entirely different crisis from what they faced in a War against Aizen as Aizen actually wanted to face Soul King, while Vanderreich wants to eliminate Shinigamies. At least for now. Maybe they also have some other plans.

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    Re: Isshin Kurosaki General Discussion Thread

    I wonder, if isshin being uncle to Shiba clan, who also was one of the 5! noble clans, thus there being 5 floating cities would make sense them being for nobles at some point before the potential imbalance that was the war 1000 years ago, i wonder if isshin caused the war by falling in love with a quincy but he was one of the royal elites that made shiba a noble clan at some stage
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    How about this for a theory about ishin:

    We know that the gotei 13 were a relatively new thing back when juhabach and yamamoto last met. At the time the squads were known as divisions. Now, what if ishin was a member of whatever military organization which existed before the divisions? In that context ishin would have never been a captain but perhaps some sort of officer within the group. Someone mentioned that guy with unohana was wearing something similar to what ishin wears.... perhaps that was a relic or something which was regularly used before the time of the divisions and over time the custom of using it was just lost. Ishin could have even been a part of the original gotei 13 or something... it would perhaps explain why he is so strong.

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    Re: Bleach Hangout Thread 3.0

    Quote Originally Posted by kkck View Post
    How about this for a theory about ishin:

    We know that the gotei 13 were a relatively new thing back when juhabach and yamamoto last met. At the time the squads were known as divisions. Now, what if ishin was a member of whatever military organization which existed before the divisions? In that context ishin would have never been a captain but perhaps some sort of officer within the group. Someone mentioned that guy with unohana was wearing something similar to what ishin wears.... perhaps that was a relic or something which was regularly used before the time of the divisions and over time the custom of using it was just lost. Ishin could have even been a part of the original gotei 13 or something... it would perhaps explain why he is so strong.

    Yeah, that's possible. I mean, Isshin was affiliated with one of the Noble Houses outside of the "Shihouin" or whatever. I'm also guessing that, Isshin's decision to revoke his position as a member of the Gotei 13 for a life with Masaki was not okay with Central 46 and could've caused problems for his Noble House or royal family. If it was the "Shiba Clan", then, that would explain why, Kukkaku and Ganju are living on the outskirts of Rukongai.

    Wouldn't surprise me, if Urahara was found by the Shiba clan as well and brought into Soul Society too, because of his intelligence.

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    Re: Bleach Hangout Thread 3.0

    Isshin is probably Shiba related although it needs to be said still. As for his power loss Urahara confirmed more or less that he gave him a fake body that essentially did the same thing to him that happened to Rukia. I would say it was definitely to hide because not only did he marry a human but it was a Quincy.

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    Re: Bleach Hangout Thread 3.0

    But what was it that beat him, or was it Isshin being a perv and purposely being beaten

    (thinking outloud)
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    Re: Isshin Kurosaki General Discussion Thread

    Who changed the thread and is there sarcasm in it
    Edit: There is no changed title. Apparently, someone posted a hangout reply here and that's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenacious Weezy View Post
    Isshin is probably Shiba related although it needs to be said still. As for his power loss Urahara confirmed more or less that he gave him a fake body that essentially did the same thing to him that happened to Rukia. I would say it was definitely to hide because not only did he marry a human but it was a Quincy.
    Not really a need, anymore. It's almost like a given at this point and we will have a few that are shocked at this development, too.
    Like Ichigo's Quincy heritage

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    Re: Isshin Kurosaki General Discussion Thread


    can anyone else see these two major look alikes?

    page 6 of chapter 417 encase link doesn't work

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    No that picture of Isshin is him after spending time holding whatever it was in the Dangai, now age him around 1000 years, whats your thoughts?

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    Re: Isshin Kurosaki General Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by devstauk View Post

    can anyone else see these two major look alikes?

    page 6 of chapter 417 encase link doesn't work

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    No that picture of Isshin is him after spending time holding whatever it was in the Dangai, now age him around 1000 years, whats your thoughts?
    Bach is Isshin's alter-ego and they are representing light and darkness on opposite polars

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    Re: Isshin Kurosaki General Discussion Thread

    Haha sounds mystical

    But nah seriously, i mean i still think in some ways bach is not a fully fledged Quincy but a rogue shinigami using quincy techs

    I'm Calling it now Isshin is RG! Let's face it Ichigo's had every other technical species why not just put the icing on the cake, Isshin come to the Human World with Urahara after he enter Royal Dimension, fell in love with Masaki and Lost his powers due to prolonged exit of the Royal Dimension of which Urahara gave him a Gaiagi( or w/e)

    Must have chapter now! Suspense is killing me
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    Re: Bleach Hangout Thread 3.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Tenacious Weezy View Post
    Isshin is probably Shiba related although it needs to be said still. As for his power loss Urahara confirmed more or less that he gave him a fake body that essentially did the same thing to him that happened to Rukia. I would say it was definitely to hide because not only did he marry a human but it was a Quincy.
    I think the fact that Ichigo is practically a clone of Kaien is one possible piece of evidence...I think Isshin was who Kuukaku was referring to as "uncle" and that Isshin was the one who caused the disgrace of the Shiba clan.

    Edit: well, I knew he was from the Shiba clan. Had NO idea he was once Toushirou's Captain in the 10th Division...his interaction with Rangiku is hilarious.
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