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    Re: Jutsu Discussion Mega Convo Thread

    It's a jutsu of the 4th hokage in which the user instantly teleports to a mark. The mark can be placed on the target person or attached to something then thrown near them. He used it back in chapter 240.

    You can see him using it on these three pages, notice the enemy's foot in the first and second pages.(*1*,*2*,*3*)
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    Re: Jutsu Discussion Mega Convo Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Jammin View Post
    It's a jutsu of the 4th hokage in which the user instantly teleports to a mark. The mark can be placed on the target person or attached to something then thrown near them. He used it back in chapter 240.

    You can see him using it on these three pages, notice the enemy's foot in the first and second pages.(*1*,*2*,*3*)
    in the picture you used, minato use shunshin not hiraishin. A few chapters later he used hiraishin but they don´t show it

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    Re: Jutsu Discussion Mega Convo Thread

    Not according to the databook, it uses that as an example. According to it, Rin was wrong. Look at the foot you'll see the mark.
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    Re: Jutsu Discussion Mega Convo Thread

    i dont think the databooks are entirely canon, and id have to go reread but i thought he put the mark on the guys foot while saving kakashi, and then with kakashi safe he used hirashin to come back and get the guy. no clue, i should go back and read that tho, i wish kishi would do some more history chaps, maybe on the 2nd hokage =)

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    Re: Jutsu Discussion Mega Convo Thread

    Here Minato uses shunsin to save kakashi while placing a seal on the opponent
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/240/08/

    These pages show him using hiraishin
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/240/09/
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/240/10/

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    Re: Jutsu Discussion Mega Convo Thread

    My Favorite Jutsu was always Tsukuyomi

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    Re: Jutsu Discussion Mega Convo Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by SharinganItachi View Post
    My Favorite Jutsu was always Tomsukuyi
    Genjusu aren't really a favorite for me altough Tomsukuyi was badass.

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    Re: Naruto 468 Discussion/469 Predictions - Part 1

    gai uses only the taijutsu and gates against all enemies in front of lee!!!
    surely he can use some ninjutsu if lee wasn't by his side

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    Re: Naruto 468 Discussion/469 Predictions - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by itachisamata View Post
    gai uses only the taijutsu and gates against all enemies in front of lee!!!
    surely he can use some ninjutsu if lee wasn't by his side
    Also, I had a theory a while back that Gai would combine the gates to increase the power of his other jutsus that he never uses. People say it's not possible, but if you look at the description of what the 8 gates does, then there's no reason to think that it can't power up things other than just taijutsu.
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    Re: Naruto 468 Discussion/469 Predictions - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by toussaintac View Post
    Also, I had a theory a while back that Gai would combine the gates to increase the power of his other jutsus that never uses. People say it's not pissble, but if you look at the description of what the 8 gates does, then there's no reason to think that it can't power up things other than just taijutsu.
    i agree, look at the final blow that gai (6gates) gave to kisame "asa kujaku"
    fire fists, i mean, surely he can do this attack in normal mode but surely without the fire. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/258/16-17/
    so, your theorie is absolutly possible

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    Re: Naruto 468 Discussion/469 Predictions - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by itachisamata View Post
    i agree, look at the final blow that gai (6gates) gave to kisame "asa kujaku"
    fire fists, i mean, surely he can do this attack in normal mode but surely without the fire. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/258/16-17/
    so, your theorie is absolutly possible
    I'm guessing that the speed of Gai's movements was so fast and caused so much friction with the air around him, that it created actual fire.

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    Re: Naruto 468 Discussion/469 Predictions - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by itachisamata View Post
    i agree, look at the final blow that gai (6gates) gave to kisame "asa kujaku"
    fire fists, i mean, surely he can do this attack in normal mode but surely without the fire. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/258/16-17/
    so, your theorie is absolutly possible
    The fire was from the friction or so I've heard. That's cool as hell though. But yeah. The theory is totally possible. It'll just amplify the power of the jutsu. I made the case that the 8 Gates is like Kaoiken or Super Saiyan.
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    Re: Jutsu Discussion Mega Convo Thread

    I have a question.



    According to this diagram water is stronger then fire , fire then wind , wind then lighting , lighting then earth and finally earth then water.

    But what about cross relations?Fire-earth , fire-lighting ,water-lighting,water-wind and wind-Earth?

    And one more thing.Onemanga translators where talking about spatial and elemental recomposion of chakra.Rasengan is an ultimate form of spatial recomposion , meaning its the best possible way of releasing and maintaining the form of chakra.With no elemental or nature of chakra additions to that.Only form.
    On the other hand there is an elemental recomposition of chakra , which means its the way to evoke the real nature of you chakra by using some jutsu which enables this.

    Chidori is the justu which combines both elemental and spatial recomposions.
    So this means that Sasuke mastered that YEARS before Naruto who got stuck on pure form.



    So how did Naruto fight with Sasuke on equal grounds during their battle on the end of part I?

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    Re: Jutsu Discussion Mega Convo Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiolin
    So how did Naruto fight with Sasuke on equal grounds during their battle on the end of part I?
    It's simple:
    Rasengan is an A rank jutsu, and Chidori is also A rank jutsu. Rasengan's power is only composed of spatial recomposition <without any elemental>, while Chidori is composed of spatial recomposion and elemental recomposition. What does it mean? That Chidori already using both things is as strong as Rasengan using only one of those things ^^
    btw. yes, if Rasengan is added an elemental recomposition it is probably stronger. I don't know if Fuuton Rasengan has a change of ranks in databook, but it defiently would have advantage of the elements; RasenShuriken is definitely ranked S in db 3.
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    Re: Jutsu Discussion Mega Convo Thread

    I think the chidori/rasengan battle can go on forever because the users can differ, but I think if both users apply the same objective measure of power, rasengan wins.



    Chidori is weaker than the ordinary rasengan made up of just ordinary chakra, imo. Add in the fact that chidori was created in failure. Because Kakashi could not add an element to Rasengan, he created chidori.
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