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Thread: Do you think Guts will ever use his behelit?

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    Re: Do you think Guts will ever use his behelit?

    I wonder what happens when a God hand dies, if that's even possible.Maybe his behelit becomes available. Besides if Guts can manage to kill a God hand then there's no need for him to use the behelit.
    If anything I see Guts becoming something like the Skullknight, and even then his powers won't be enough to kill the God hand.

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    Re: Do you think Guts will ever use his behelit?

    Well, if we assume that humanity started loooooooong ago (let's say thousands of years), then it's obvious that God Hand change (dying ?), not too sure about that since we don't know much about them yet. There's a chance that Void is that wise man who was mentioned by Charlotte and that freak of the nature Mozgus, so the current God Hand started with him, which implies there could have been other God Hand before him, as Mozgus mentioned " Angels " (don't recall if he said 4 or 5 Angels)

    Also, just what is Skull Knight ? An apostle ? Obviously he isn't human anymore, judging from what he said to Guts when they talked about the Armor, so what made him " evolve " ? Some strong magic ? Or him being in the interstice for so long affected him to become sorta immortal ?

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    Re: Do you think Guts will ever use his behelit?

    Yeah I remember the part where Mozgus(or was is Charlotte) mentioned the wise man and the 4 or 5 angels. Also it speaks of Gaiseric, which is hinted to be Skullknight's real identity. Void is prolly the oldest of the God Hand, and the others came after, which implies that by the time Void became a God Hand, there were other members than the current ones. They seem invincible, but maybe there really is a way to defeat them.
    About SK, I think he's some kind of magical creature. Puck mentions that he has a fairy smell or something like that. He looks like an apostle in a way, but the brand isn't triggered when he appears, so it must be something else. Oh and it is also said that the previous owner of the berserker armor got consumed by it and prolly died.When the berserker armor is introduced the first time, it has a helmet in the shape of a skull. So there is a high chance that the previous owner is SK aka Gaiseric because of the skull helmet.
    My theory is that SK died , and then Flora or the Hanafubuku king used some really powerful magic to bring him back in the form that we all know.And even in that form he's not able to compete with the God Hand. So Guts needs something more than that to be able to kill the God Hand.
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    Re: Do you think Guts will ever use his behelit?

    We saw the Skull Knight use the behelits in a different
    way maybe Elfheim's citizens know another way to use
    them, giving Guts a new weapon...

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    God Hand change (dying ?)
    As demons I see the seem to be eternal beings
    even Zodd is living for centuries and shows no signs of stopping...

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    we've seen the strongest Apostle so far being absolutely useless against Griffith
    I think it's the season of the witch, Griffith didn't let Skull Knights
    important ally Flora be killed without a good reason and Schierke
    being able to sense his shield/invisible cutting force is another hint
    that if Guts gains even more powers - he is allready very close to Zodd
    and with a strong enough witch to back him up he might pose
    a threat to the Godshand someday...

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    Re: Do you think Guts will ever use his behelit?

    Come on guys, its name is "Becchi," not "Behelit!" :-p

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    Re: Do you think Guts will ever use his behelit?

    Quote Originally Posted by goodyfresh View Post
    Come on guys, its name is "Becchi," not "Behelit!" :-p
    Well that's what Puck calls it.Actually since Puck is so attached to it maybe he'll be the one to use it

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    Re: Do you think Guts will ever use his behelit?

    Puck the apostle!

    I guess that means Guts would have 2 brands?

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    Re: Do you think Guts will ever use his behelit?

    Nah Puck should hate Guts, remember how many times he treated him badly in the past? I hope he ends up sacrificing Isidro instead because he loves him very much(i'm so evil)

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    Re: Do you think Guts will ever use his behelit?

    I was reading this chapter last night (see below). Where the Skull Knight hints that Guts will only be able to "fight the war" or "save that person", that person being Caska. Perhaps if he chooses to fight the war he would have to use the behelit, sacrifice Caska, to fight Griffith. Or choose not to use the behelit, not fight Griffith, and save Caska. Thoughts?

    http://www.mangareader.net/96-1138-2...hapter-18.html

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    Re: Do you think Guts will ever use his behelit?

    Basically that's the dilemma Guts is going to have, either save Caska(and we're not sure she can be 100% safe with the God Hand around) or save the rest of humanity+magical creatures from whatever Griffith is planning for them.I can see Guts being some kind of saviour but I have a feeling it would involve losing Caska and his current friends,either by sacrificing them or losing them to the apostles and the God Hand.

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    Re: Do you think Guts will ever use his behelit?

    Quote Originally Posted by psychophant View Post
    For some time Guts, although pukk 'cares' for it, has had a behelit, if he ever does use it what will he become?

    yeah i know pukk has a name for it, just forgot
    It's name is BECHI
    Guts have try using it to summon 5 gods hand, but he cannot use it, because when behelit come to human world, the owner have destined.
    ---------- Post added at 01:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:34 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Silhouette View Post
    Gutts won't use the behelit or actually he cannot use it. Each behelit has its own unique owner whose connected to it by destiny. It doesn't matter if the owner loses it because it will return to him/her no matter what (e.g Griffith and the Count). If someone else finds the behelit and the owner is dead, it won't resonate and will remain dormant because it's unique to its owner only. Gutts has already tried to use it to call the 5 king demons and he asked the mansion witch ( I think her name was Flora) to help him but even she didn't know how to activate it.

    Having that said, I tend to believe that Gutts will not continue being a human forever, he's cursed and his armour is cursed so most likely, he will turn into whatever the SK is but I believe this won't happen until the very end (wishing Miura and fans a long life!!).
    Agreed with first paragraph, but In my perspective of view, Guts will never become Immortal (like SK), because SK is former branded that "swallowed" by Berserk Armor and lost his humanity.
    Guts already can control Berserk Armor (assisted by Schierke). On Elfheim, Guts will learn how to control it's power. So he will become more powerful and berserk power will never harm him again.

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    Re: Do you think Guts will ever use his behelit?

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    Guts have try using it to summon 5 gods hand, but he cannot use it, because when behelit come to human world, the owner have destined.
    There are two rules to using one in its intended way
    1. the need/want 2. a desire that has been utterly destroyed.

    Even if the Behelit belongs to a future Guts who manages to remove
    the brand and regains his humanity he wouldn't have been able to
    us it since condition 2 wasn't met.

    And in the end we don't know who it belongs to also about the destined owners...
    ... that's something that needs another perspective after seeing what SK did
    with them meaning Betchi might be a weapon and isn't to be used in the
    the classic sacrificing way.

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    Guts will never become Immortal (like SK), because SK is former branded that "swallowed" by Berserk Armor and lost his humanity.
    Him being a former branded we don't know that for sure do we?
    He might be an apostle who turned against the God Hand cause
    if he had the brand he doesn't seem to have it any longer so
    how has he lost it through using the Berserker Armor?

    Maybe he was neither just a man who lost his Kingdom and
    turned to magic to fight Void.
    (Who might have been the wise man imprisoned in the Tower of Conviction.)

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    Re: Do you think Guts will ever use his behelit?

    Quote Quote:
    There are two rules to using one in its intended way
    1. the need/want 2. a desire that has been utterly destroyed.

    Even if the Behelit belongs to a future Guts who manages to remove
    the brand and regains his humanity he wouldn't have been able to
    us it since condition 2 wasn't met.

    And in the end we don't know who it belongs to also about the destined owners...
    ... that's something that needs another perspective after seeing what SK did
    with them meaning Betchi might be a weapon and isn't to be used in the
    the classic sacrificing way.
    This bechi is belong to The Count
    so, indeed it cannot used for scarification way. I'm admit that still possible for Guts use bechi as a weapon.. or Puck use it as special weapon (after modified on Elfheim), make him stronger ..

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    Him being a former branded we don't know that for sure do we?
    He might be an apostle who turned against the God Hand cause
    if he had the brand he doesn't seem to have it any longer so
    how has he lost it through using the Berserker Armor?

    Maybe he was neither just a man who lost his Kingdom and
    turned to magic to fight Void.
    (Who might have been the wise man imprisoned in the Tower of Conviction.)
    But we knew that SK is former Berserker, if he is former Apostle, I think he don't need Berserk Armor (I think he is former branded and one who give him brand is Void, because SK attack him at eclipse [speculation, but can be portrayed like that in my POV]). SK said, he and Flora have relationship like Guts and Schierke, based this I'm more confident that SK is former branded.
    Last edited by IsidroXSchierke; October 09, 2014 at 12:34 PM.

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