If Bleach was a seinen manga?

[delapaz13]

if bleach was a seinen manga would you think it would still be popular or would it be more popular and would they still make an anime adaptation of it?

[OrangeRat]

I don't think it would be more popular. It may get animated, but it would have a small (but devoted) following, and would be generally less accessable to people.

It's good where it is now, good fights, a reasonable amount of blood, and of course boobies.

It's not too adult, but it's definately not a kid's show.

I don't think I'd like it too much if it was a seinen manga, though I love Elfen Lied. Go Lucy and long live Illuminati-Manga!

[genkigemini]

I agree with OrangeRat. Right now Bleach is riding a really fine line where it has a great story, good fights and hot people. It is at a point where both guys and girls can read/watch and enjoy. If it was seinen, I think it would be a little too hardcore for some people and the story would suffer because of it.

[Kazuho]

yes i would ALSO have to agree. i mean if it were seinen than it would jus involve a distraction from the great plot. for example, when Inoue says good bye to ichigo while hes sleeping, they wouldve written sumthin dumb like having her sleep with him. i mean isnt it better to be like "dammit! jus kiss the guy already!!!" (haha, aww such a sad moment in Bleach...), instead of "ah crap! i knoe where this is goin..."

[ttxdragon]

Please remember that Seinen doesn't mean it's just sex, Kazuho >_>


If bleach was seinen,
I guess it would've started out about the same, then the first introduction chapters about the same, but maybe with less unnecessary comedy at parts.

But what's more, we likely would've gotten a better informed rukia (i mean: she must've known that if she stayed too long she would need assistance in getting away from the pursuers sooner or later... which means: train ichigo, ask urahara for help and such stuff).

Then, moving onto the soul society arc, i guess we would've gotten the same action, but actual deaths. I could definitely see Ishida slaughtering that Shinigami instead of disabling him. same with chads powerblasts against some shinigami or with ganju/ichigo tag-teaming that one time: They would've likely actually slain some enemies instead of "injuring them so hard that they can't fight anymore".

then, ganju vs. byakuya... ganju could've actually died there. it would've had more impact on that point i guess.

Moving on, I think that aizen would've had a more complicated and less all-mighty way to get them all to believe he was dead etc.

then, after SS arc,
first, the fights would've had more death, ishida wouldn't have miracously regained his powers (although i think that would still be possible... hmm... guess i like it both ways). I guess we wouldn't have seen so many miraculous upgrades after the ss-arc... but more people joining the actual fights and all (like urahara, isshin, ryuuken actually participating in non-cheap-shot fights)
i guess we would've gotten the same unchanged scene with orihime as that scene is complete as it is.
Then, the HM raid would've been a bit better prepared than this one...


Hmmm... all in all it's a question of deepening the plot and adding more mature scenes in general. (maybe even more fanservice, i wouldn't complain ).
I guess it's a question of what kind of seinen it would be... I would like it to be close to gantz (the detail in slaughtering, the unpredictability of what will happen, etc) and still retain the bleach-charm (awesome art, awesome characters, great fighting scenes).


so, those are my two cents on the matter

[Kazuho]

well i guess i shouldve ben more specific...i meant that there would be an implication of them having sex....not actually shown it...

there would definately have been many deaths, and a lot of nudity on Matsumoto's part...

but the harmful part is complexity at which the plots would be based....a lot of people would stop watching because they wouldnt understand...

[Kaemon]

I really don't think it would make a difference to me, I mean, I probably would still have been watching it and reading it and what not, I mean, as long as it had still had that same catchy theme song to start me off.

Now... the real question here is...

What if Bleach was a Josei/Shōjo manga?

Pfft.

[OrangeRat]

It's working as a shonen manga so I think anything else would be pushing it.

[Musashi_Keiji]

I don't think you people know what a seinen manga is about.... Go read:
Tough
Vagabond
Berserk
Gantz

none of those are sex crazed manga or anything.
Seinen is classified as mature for a variety of reasons. Which include more political stuff, spirituallity, gore, of course sex too, and overall less comical.

I can't imagine bleach being a Seinen manga.... If it were that would mean people would actually die more bloodily like having their heads chopped off and dismemberments... Masumoto's tits would be way way more raunchy than just being big...

It would be totally different almost.

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[macherie]

Lmao i'd say the breast sizes of the characters already present would be multiplied by a factor of 100, along with meaner looking arrancar.
Shirosaki would probably look more nightmarish and Ichigo would have absolutely no feelings !
XDDDDDD

[eni]

Why less comedy? There're nice comedy seinen as well and some are with lots of chibi.
And why more sex? Ah my Goddess is a sweet romance seinen without the ecchi thing.

Not all seinen are about gore and action. Bleach is aimed at a younger audience that's why it's shounen, if it where written for older readers it wouldn't necessary be much different - but the story were probably less dragonball-ish (aka: countless power ups and topping each others while fighting) which is more typical for shounen. Shounen fights are more like games with levels, less angsty and realistic 'cause the younger readers don't need to be afraid of (many) deaths of important characters or that their hero losing any main fights (which is not at all sure in "seinen-fights"). Problems get solved way more often through sudden miracles (someone suddely pops up) or angsty situations get resolved in comedy moments ("just a joke, just a joke"). Seinen is usually way more serious here and goes straight through those things without watching for the readers mind - which can't be done in shounen, they have to pay attention to the younger age of the readers (= can't handle mature situations).

Maybe the gang would be older (college students) and the plot involve more reallife problems (and not blend out those while fighting in Soul Society/Hueco Mundo) and be not so much focussed on fighting the next and the next and the next opponent without looking right nor left.

But it could still be a funny (chibi-using) action manga with (ecchi-less) romance and deep character profiles.

[radical3113]

if bleach was a seinen manga there would simply be more real life issues. like the fact that he waltzs in and out of scholl when he feels like it without any concequences. ichigo would have more productive conversations with his family. and aizens plot might not be world domination.

[benelori]

To answer to OP...I think it depends a lot on the publisher...being a Shounen Jump product definitely helped it getting an anime adaptation...

Many of these great shounen series could be better with a touch of seinen values in it...more deaths for one, and more intricate characters