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Since Orochimaru saw how Sharingan works in his battle with Itachi, I am beginning to suspect the former allowed Sasuke to beat him with the same trick? Maybe there's more to it than it appears to be, especially since Jiraiya took so long to die?
Orochimaru is definitely not out of the story. He'll play an integral roll, but probably not for a while. Remember, he's still in Sasuke's AND Kabuto's heads.
I don't know if he lost on purpose, but we know he's not 'dead'.
he isnt dead, his body and mind are just separated. and he will surely return in one way or the other.
Oro just has to mess about with Saske's mind, messing with his thoughts, coming in the way of his decision making forcing him to reverse his genjutsu at the same time making sure Oro doesn't get his wish and take over Saske.
Kabuto was to good of a medic, something like keeping his body from being taken over by cancer Oro should be with in his capability, as he tested on so many humans, but Oro coming back would be a good thing for story as he was one bad ass futhermucker, he was a villains villain.
Final Battle, Orochimaru-Sasuke vs Naruto.
Orochimaru was actually a somewhat sensical villain. He wanted the Sharingan to pay Itachi back for being a b*tch, he wanted to burn Konoha because he wasn't given the Hokage ship, he wants eternal life so he can live to complain about other things for all eternity, I mean- it may be 3rd grade mentality but it is far superior to where Itachi/Madara is heading...
Last edited by spinsane; January 24, 2008 at 12:09 PM.
Oro is dead. Everyone in the manga agrees that he is dead. People who really know what happened (Sasuke & Kabuto) agree that Oro is dead. Also keep in mind that Oro had a flashback of Sandaime, and we all know what that means.
People like Kabuto and Sasuke will carry on Oro's legacy such as his snake-related jutsus, but Oro isn't coming back. And if for some strange reason he does come back, he needs to go die again. He'll go back to not caring about anything and fleeing from everybody. That's why he got shafted in such a manner to begin with.
it clearly said that orochimaru hast died, but is lost.
with oro's body and mind, though seperated, still in game, anything can happen.
Last edited by Oblivion; January 24, 2008 at 12:50 PM.
I think Oro will return, he is been the main villain from the start and will most likely continue to be. His ambition to be the ultimate being, has connections to so many things. This page states that the Oro lives on
Too bad Kabuto changed his mind.
Text doesn't count when it isn't written by the mangaka. Sidetext is the opinion of SJ Editors, and their "narration" (sidetext) on things is not canon. It's been mentioned on five separate occasions that Oro is dead. Both Kabuto and Sasuke agree that Oro is dead. Oro isn't coming back.
i think he hasnt changed his mind. he has no hope for him to return so has declared him dead.Quote:
well it could be that oro is dead, but i think there is still a chance that we may see him again.
Yeah, sooner or later Orochimaru's gonna return. It's really a matter of time, and could happen a number of ways. The first is the "He takes over Kabuto" route. Another possibility is he breaks out of his "dimension" or whatever and takes over the body of a frog (which would be ironic in so many ways...). Heck, he could pull a Voldemort and just resurrect himself in one of his lairs from leftover bits of his snake-soul.
I think it's significant how quickly Sasuke killed him, too. For a long time, a good piece of the plot revolved around Oro. I think forcing us to forget about him is something Kishi is trying to do. Making a quick death leads me to believe that he'll come back, just because it was just TOO easy.
Small, untested theory: Oro wants Sasuke with the MS. To get MS you have to kill your best friend. Oro doesn't have a best friend, so he needs Sasuke to do that first. He let Sasuke take him over temporarily. There may be a great multi-dimensional fight!
i posted this on the other forum, im posting it here again for debate.
oro's body transfer justu discussion
the guy above or from real Orochimaru?
since Kabuto mentioned - he took from Oro's body. then Oro's body is dead.
the only possibility i see is that Orochimaru lives in the subconsious of sasuke.