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Translations: Bleach 600 (2)
Awww...just to be the best swordsman?
I tot his vow was to be the strongest warrior ever....
Since when he revised that?
[b][font=verdana][color=green][size=1]Strongest Warrior? Isn't that the job for the King of Pirates?Originally Posted by J@ffzz
When you look that way on the situation you can say he already lost against Arlong
It is a vow for becoming the greatest swordsman so he can't and won't lose to another swordsman
[b][font=verdana][color=green][size=1]Indeed. He puts 150% when fighting against an opponent ( as long as that foe is carrying a sword). He cannot claim to be the best "swordsman" if he was defeated by another "swordsman". In other words, he has to keep winning at swords.Originally Posted by Mugiwara_no_Jack
As all of you said. Zoro is aiming to be the greatest swordsman, so he should never lose to other swordsman.
Anyways, he still lost, but it was Enel, so it wasn't really a fair match from the start.. I didn't take this "break vow" so hard..
[b][font=verdana][color=green][size=1]As long as he doesn't lose to another swordman, it won't matter to Zoro that much. After being defeated 2001 times by Kuina and once more by Hawk-eyes, you can imagine the pressure he's being in. In other words this topic should that much relevance to his "loss" since we can deem it "uncountable" to the "other" losses for Zoro. Till we hear of another swordsman other than Mihawk that can best him, let's say so otherwise.Originally Posted by Absulutio
i agree with Absulutio, it wasn't a fair match in the first place and Eneru uses his lightning powers whereas Zoro has to use his natural skills
Much as i am a fan of zoro.....defeat means defeat.....no excuse to that....
His vow was never to be defeated ever again, and I guess that didnt not go as smoothly as he planned.
Sad but true......he lost...
[b][font=verdana][color=green][size=1]Umm... Zoro is going to suffer big time if he really lost. Would you say it was no "excuse" if Luffy turned out to be the King of Pirates and still defeat Zoro as a "best swordsman" in the world? Then there would be no meaning to his dream. We should not forget Zoro's dream is to be the BEST swordsman in the world through Evil or Good means. Defeat is not counted if it were not a sword battle, in fact did he not lose against Arlong after defeating Hachi (a Swordsman/fishman)? That's more than an okay excuse to me or else Oda would have a LOT of explaing to do.Originally Posted by J@ffzz
Not to say he lost to Eneru he juz got struck by Eneru's lightling bolt and fainted.There were not reali in combat so it doesnt reali count.....I guess
Like most have said before me, (in my opinion) you can't really call it an even fight as Enel was not a swordsman. Fighting him without being able to hit him (which means without seastone forged swords) isn't really a fight.
The other point is that Enel was not Zorro's opponent. The priest with the dog was and Zorro finished him off. He can't just go and take Luffy's enemy from him (would be pretty boring, right?). Besides, even after being struck by lightning he (somehow) managed to cut that big tree and despite Enel's effort to stop him.
If Zoro was able to cut through elements like Mihawk then there would have a been a different outcome. Enel would have been wounded by Zoro not sure if defeated based on Zoro's strenght at the time. But, like ibra87 said he couldn't take Luffy's oppenent from him.
i agree that zoro lost to enel or perhaps to Lucci (if he ever got the chance to face him) or to maybe to any of luffy's enemies! but i dont think it's such a big deal that will depress him or anything like that. because his aim is to be the strongest swordsman, so i think thoso lost will not matter much for him..
I agree taht he lost, but still going to his goal to be best swordman, and when he said he would not lost again, it was that he won´t need his enemies mercy like Mihawk. He will survive (litlle gay) no matter what.
Zoro was beat by Kaku(i think thats the giraffe dude's name) and dont give me that "he wasn't serious" bs. He lost and that's that. He shouldn't of ever made that vow