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He cannot have beaten Ace whereas BB could have but BB is not at an Admiral level.
Nevertheless, the fact that Ace has been able to beat Ace at the end of the fight is linked to the fact the darkness absorbed the fire attack of Ace and he has been himself absorbed in the darkness.
But I think that an Admiral would have been able to beat another logia user. So, Ace and Smoker not able to injure one and the other show us that they have not reached the level of the elite among the elite. For example, Rayleigh has been able to injure Kizaru which is a logia without using a natural weakness from what we have seen.
I think Smoker is not at all at this level for the moment even if he has the advantage of the
Moreover, Smoker has not shown us deathly attacks whereas Ao Kiji and Kizaru did with their logia powers.
Luffy has been running away from smoker ever since he realised logia intangibilities.
So, by any chance, do you ever think that Luffy could even the playing field against Smoker (haki?) or trying to find the "weakness" of smoke?
There will definitely meetings in the future (NW) if not even before in the current events. Im expecting Smoker to be a lot stronger than before, not like he displayed the full extent of his powers so far. But his newly gained scar tells me that he had some hard fights/training, thus he must be stronger. Same would go for Luffy, as we know he is stronger than his last meeting with him.
But even if Luffy has control over haki, Im seeing him still running. Can't rly explain why I do, it's just the atmosphere around them. Nevertheless, can't wait to see him. I always liked the Luffy vs Smoker encounters.
Smoker (like Blackbeard) is another one of Luffy's rivals, so of course there will be more Smoker vs. Luffy battles to come. Luffy will be sure to have an extremely difficult time against Smoker, not only because of the smoke intangibility but also because of Smoker's seastone sword (which is carries on his back most of the time). Any ideas on what the weakness of Smoker's fruit is?
Well Smoke dissipates and loses it's consistency with a breeze, but if we're talking hot smoke the cold would probably also get rid of it.
Wind seems the most likely weakness, but I imagine Haki will be the factor in their fight.
And yeah, Smoker is to Luffy what Garp was to Roger, or at least that's my bet. Some bet that Coby will be Luffy's "Garp", but Luffy has never been chased by Coby, so it doesn't really work.
well smoke is not that strong really its not solid or heart you in any way unless you breath lots of it.i guess if luffy is strong enough the smoke just wont hold him in place.
Actually in Loguetown their was a storm when the SH's were leaving. Since a storm usually includes wind does anyone have a pic of Smoker using his DF while it was storming? That could either lend proof to the theory or disprove it.
He didn't use it while it was storming. I would agree that wind would fuck him up, but he's probably trained enough not to let anything but the strongest winds bother him.
Also, it's interesting that he didn't try to fight Dragon with the smoke while the wind was the strongest.
I don't think wind is the opposite of smoke. Wind would be sort of like fire. In the fight with ace, none of them ever got the upper hand.
The same applies for wind. If someone had a wind df, they could possibly surround smoker and not allow him to escape a certain place; but it would never actually kill him unless the wind user could use his/her wind to entrap smoker, and continually squeeze the area smoker can move around.....and only if someone it could get to a point where the smoke becomes so compacted that it turns into something else....and somehow...kill smoker?
Smoker has a really powerful df, because there really isn't an 'opposite' to smoke. Either extreme compaction or extreme dispersion I would assume would 'defeat' Smoker. Perhaps Smoker has a 'range' that all his smoke has to stay within each other so they can't be spread out alot or something freaky happens.
Unless that is the case....his only weakness is....the sea and seastone. :<
Well, smoke can be freeze since it consists in small solid particles.
I agree really interesting, haven't thought about it. AoKiji could freeze Smoker with his breath, but touching is probably not possible.
Suddenly struck me that this is a very likely fight now that he has developed his Haki to a level where he should be able to punch a logia user and hurt him. Smoker is the main "unbeatable enemy" this far, someone that Luffy since the start has been completely unable to hurt.
I dont think we'll see any kind of conclusive fight (that wouldnt make sense, I think smoker and luffy is a relationship similar to garp and roger's and will be running till the end), but im pretty damn sure we will at least have a small run in between the two.