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Translations: Bleach 595 (2)
whatever you may say; Soi Fon and Komamura aren't among the strongest Captains. and the fact isn't going to be changed.
None of the captains of the gotei 13 can be considered the weakest be cause they can all at least defeat another fellow captain, or ex captain.
The thing is to call these hypothetic battles one way or another, we can only speculate.
But while senior captains are in a different level of strength, you can't really evaluate the result of a battle between captain-level sides based purely on that strength.
For instance, in my opinion,Tousen, in terms of reiatsu and overall raw power wouldn't rank that high, but his Bankai would be too much for half of the captains to counter. Captain-Commander, Komamura and Kenpachi (as shown, of course) can tank it and counter it, are you sure that seniors would be able to do it?
Especially Unohana, since all that is to her for now is nothing but hype. She hasn't shown anything to suggest that she can take direct hits from a sword in order to grab it. Of course, she hasn't shown anything to suggest the opposite of this, either.
I'm not necessarily suggesting Tousen or a supposedly weaker captain would cut them down or something.
I'm just saying you can't leave their respective abilities out while evaluating a hypothetic duel.
If you are talking about fastest as in foot speed, then what speed feats has as Soifon displayed to praise her that much lvl?
I don't see her being faster than Yama at all & possibly Shunsui (who was praised by Yama for his shunpo speed).
Yama is a master of the shinigami arts. He has mastered all arts so he is no doubt fast & strong (he shown this against WW). Soifon is actually a baby to him in the shinigami arts & I don't think we have been given a reason to believe she's the fastest captain (shunpo user).
The only captain that has strike me as being faster than Yama is Aizen (understandable because Aizen has also mastered the shinigami arts).
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Tousen's bankai is not absolute. I see all the captains being able to fight it one way or the other but the bankai will give them hell no doubt. Kenpachi is one dangerous close range fighter. so the most appropriate way for his to get around Tousen is to catch Tousen's blade before it does any real damage.
About tousen, I think his bankai can easily be countered if the other person have seen it before. Koma's bankai can easily rip the enclosed space apart, similar to Byakuya and other captains... But if he fight an unprepared person, it's really troublesome.
Last edited by River_Capulet; November 23, 2012 at 09:12 AM.
http://www.mangapanda.com/94-753-19/...apter-299.html was used by Yoruichi to escape danger from Byakuya in the SS arc. It is not a speed feat.
I don't think Tousen's bankai can easily be broken like that. If it could then it's a very flawed bankai. Nontheless I still think he would give the other captains (who aren't seniors) hell.
Do you think that yoruichi one after image technique is more difficult to pull out than soi fon 15 clones? not to mention Yoruichi (and Byakuya) after image stands still while soifon 15 clones moves simultaneously. None of the character in the manga have showed such technique, zommari was limited to 5 clones. Yoruichi and Byakuya pulled out 1 after image, Urahara used a gigai and Hitsu used an ice reflection.
Soi fon's greatest strength is speed, and very few other chars showed that they can be faster than her. We are just seeing how fast they are compared to their opponent, but we've never really see them race against each other. We've only seen about 3 races, Yoruichi vs Byakuya, Yoruichi vs soi fon, and Yama vs uki + shunsui. Aizen vs Yama vs Soi fon can't really be judged, but base on her clones technique, I speculate that she's no baby even when compared to the other two (speed only)
Last edited by River_Capulet; November 23, 2012 at 09:46 AM.
But if it's, that's really not as hax as I thought first.
She really has a special speed. Nothing less should be expected from a 2nd squad captain. She was trained as a true assassin from childhood.
Molting Cicada is a very fearsome speed move, but it has got nothing to do with Soifon's clones. The only character apart from Soifon who made a clone by speed was Zommari, Espada #7 with his sonido.
We can't compare the two's techniques clearly perhaps, but that's a better comparison.
And we have only Shunpo techniques to properly measure a character's speed.
That makes Byakuya an above-average speed master as well, considering he was able to master a move Yoruichi uses.
We don't have any other data about the rest, though.
Last edited by Hakuteiken; November 23, 2012 at 10:03 AM.
Soifon's greatest strength is the skills of assasination. It's not just foot speed.
Last edited by Kay3795; November 23, 2012 at 10:23 AM.
Yoruichi might be rusty, but earlier on she was still able to outmaneuver Byakuya while carrying Ichigo + zangetsu on her back. If Aizen, Yama, Bach speed is 10, I would give her at least 9.5 or 9.
She isn't what you would call a competent fighter at that point in time. She became rusty at performing all her skills.
Yoruichi carrying Ichigo & his Zanpakuto didn't downgrade her speed. I can't believe you said that actually ^_^
These's characters use reiatsu to fight not physical strength hence Isshin's statement vs Grandfisher.
Also lets look at the Byakuya vs Yoruichi little non serious shunpo tag fight again ^_^ http://www.mangareader.net/94-572-13...apter-118.html http://www.mangareader.net/94-572-14...apter-118.html http://www.mangareader.net/94-572-15...apter-118.html http://www.mangareader.net/94-572-16...apter-118.html http://www.mangareader.net/94-572-17...apter-118.html
She used the escape jutsu (I've been watching too much Naruto lol), I mean shishou (the same tech Byakuya used to escape zommari) to escape Byakuya.
So yh, she really was rusty.