Marvel Comics Discussion Thread!

[Hollow Kurono]

Woooo,Anti-Venom is crazy.Crazy,just like that Venom is out took away his suit,I still want an explanation how did he got those powers,was it Li who did it?Remeber he touched him and something blue happened.

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the line drawing dude for lots of cool marvel stuff

That brings me to that,when will "Wolverine:Orgins 28" come out?I realy cant wait for it.But this dude aint the only one who is drawing marvel stuff

[juUnior]

Woooo,Anti-Venom is crazy.Crazy,just like that Venom is out

hmm I saw the covers of the new Amazing's, and just one question, on simple and the only one <I google it, but I couldnt find that>:
Who is Anti-Venom? Is it Brock? Some info is put about it? Thx in advance for reply

[D3M1URG3]

hmm I saw the covers of the new Amazing's, and just one question, on simple and the only one <I google it, but I couldnt find that>:
Who is Anti-Venom? Is it Brock? Some info is put about it? Thx in advance for reply

Yes, It's Brock. This Is so far a big mistake on Marvel's part, IMO. Brand New Day was terrible to begin with, but New Ways to Die is only making things worse.

[juUnior]

Yes, It's Brock. This Is so far a big mistake on Marvel's part, IMO. Brand New Day was terrible to begin with, but New Ways to Die is only making things worse.

Thx! So it is Brock.. hmm, makes me wonder: is it just because of Mr.Negative touch, that hmm some little symbiote in his blood mutated and he once again could become Veno... ekhem, Anti-Venom? Is he strong compared to Gargan's Venom right now? And was it said, what's the objective <if any..> has Anti-Venom? And why did he called himself "Anti-".. man, I'm not fond of seeing Brock in different style than the old cool Blueish/Blackish Venom :x <objective, I mean: before he had that thing to kill Spidey, sometimes Carnage and other symbiotes, and now?>
btw. I didn't expect that Brock will be back, but in "not beieng the Venom we.. ok, ok, I love xP

[Hollow Kurono]

Thx! So it is Brock.. hmm, makes me wonder: is it just because of Mr.Negative touch, that hmm some little symbiote in his blood mutated and he once again could become Veno... ekhem, Anti-Venom? Is he strong compared to Gargan's Venom right now? And was it said, what's the objective <if any..> has Anti-Venom? And why did he called himself "Anti-".. man, I'm not fond of seeing Brock in different style than the old cool Blueish/Blackish Venom :x <objective, I mean: before he had that thing to kill Spidey, sometimes Carnage and other symbiotes, and now?>
btw. I didn't expect that Brock will be back, but in "not beieng the Venom we.. ok, ok, I love xP

Cause he hates Venom,and thinks hes like a dissease,so he named himself Anti,he hated it because he got cancer cause of Venom so.And Anti-Venom already beat Venom as it seems hes takin Spider-Man

[wrstljr]

Right now if marvel fans were given a vote

I'm pretty certain over 80% would vote in favor of retconning everything having to do with Spider-man since OMD.

I didn't even think it was possible to undermine a character to the point where he loses everything good about him. Say what you want about how now there can be more interesting storylines for him...the whole thing has seemed half-assed and was conceptualized and written incredibly poorly.

It's going take years (and probably a restart or something) for Spidey to ever get back to normal in the mainstream universe.

Anti-venom is a joke...remember when they tried having a bunch of new symbiotes and it failed? Toxic anyone?

There is a reason the 3rd spiderman movie was the worst...as cool as Venom looks and as badass as he is...his character depth is mediocore. He a rampaging monster when most of the dudes Spidey normally fights are more compelling.

I hope people now can look back on the clone saga and say...well it was long as hell but at least there was some payoff in the end...and what an insane story.

[Hollow Kurono]

I started reading Spidey myself a couple of months ago.And yeah its sad and lame the way it turned out to be with MJ and everything Spidey has done,even the art is a bit wacky,Anti-Venom is good,I like him and everything,but I agree its to much already.

his name wasnt Toxic it was Toxin I guess the symbiotes definantly failed if you cant remeber them.Well as I said I just started reading everything,so Im not hating it that much.

And I agree about the third Spider-man movie it sucked,I cant even make myself watch it if Im bored,the first one was the best.They should have made Venom a bit more like Venom,cause as you can remeber Venom was hella built and this venom was shorter then Spidey.

And when you are talkin about the symbiotes dont forget about the goblins to.The Menace and probably the Menace is someone we know,I just dont know which one probably Harrys girlfriend or Harrys girlfriends best friend the one that cop likes,Peters roomm8.Anyway..waiting for the next chapter.

[Lohnt]

So.. Mr Negative is filling New York with cheap (but deadlier) knockoffs of original Spidey villains.... (I really miss the Mayan god arc.. that shit was tight)

So.. Anti-venom is as strong as venom without any of the weaknesses, but Brock so far seems to be good, also he's forgotten Pete's identity so he has no hatred for Spider-man anymore. This is good I think for now. The name and color still suck though.

Norman has gone full Green Goblin, which is BLASPHEMY to all the god-@#%$@#% awesome Thunderbolts chapters where he was NORMAN OSBORN, not GG, and was smart enough to be Lex Luthor and a member of congress during the Registration act.
But this way he gets to kill Menace.. which is dumb because Menace seemed deadlier, but less insane. I guess crazier always beats stronger.

But Norman captured Freak, and made Gargan a super-scorpion Venom (which I personally prefer, just not the current one), because I always thought it was cool when he was a scorpion venom.. just that this current costume is kinda.. space-looking, better suited for a Nova villain.

In fact most of these new villains feel like they belong in space/some other superhero's comic. Maybe MAYBE if Pete was still the Iron Spider-man (with Stark's armor) I would buy this whole Shtick.. but OMD/NWTD is blerg.

Although I am nostalgic for the Mayan God mini-arc.. although it was filler, it surpassed this garbage. In fact I think that is the winning formula for Spidey, filler = win. This is why I prefer the british Spider-man comic and Ultimate Spidey, it's like watching simpsons without having to follow every episode.

[Hollow Kurono]

Hey there,I have a favor to ask,does anyone have "Avengers: The Initiative #14"?I would like to start reading Secret Invasion,but I cant find the chapter.If anyone can plz help.


@Lohnt

They Mayan was a cool arc to,I realy didnt suspect the dude to be the villain when he said he was a good guy,but yeah the characthers in it were awesome,especialy the main villain,he was so big and definantly was awesome looking,well I mean he was cool.


You know I am tired of this already,I realy am,a post or two ago I was fine about it,but now when I though of the Spidey that had night-vision,had those things comin out of him,I dont remeber them,he was so insane and so strong,remeber the time Morlun wanted to finish him off?I dont know I think there should be some kind of thing,or person or something just do bring back that Spider-Man,I love this Spidey to,but I want to see him with those powers and want to see MJ with him again.

[Lohnt]

They could always ressurect the Ghost Rider series by doing a crossover mini event where he kills Memphisto. Especially now that Dr Strange won't be sorcerer supreme...

Unless some cool writer takes over and screws all this, has Dr Doom become the new SS, get the evil Illuminati together and start forming an army with Namor, Penance and the Hood, but Osborn stands in his way, and he recruits Spidey but in order to do so he does him the favor of taking out Memphisto... I think that would be a team worthy of the possible new avengers team of Odinforce Thor, Shiney Cap, How many times are you going to get upgrades Iron-Man and maybe Wolverine..

But spidey you know.. wouldn't really be evil, he still wouldn't kill people, just fight for Doom. Come one! It's doom, we all love him. No but seriously wouldn't it be awesome to see Osborn's Thunderbolts take on Doom's illuminati? I still think Osborn would somehow win even though the Dark Illuminati is crazy powerful.. especially now that Bullseye doesn't get affected by psychics (bye bye Emma!)

[Hollow Kurono]

How will you call this scorpion?Venomus-Scorpion or Anti-AntiVenom?Well this is sick and lame,I never saw what Scorpion can do in a comic book,only on tv,now ofcourse theres gonna be some fightin and still Anti-Venom and Spidey will win.

I wish Mephisto turns everythin back the way it was.I understand "House of M" was good when reality was changed,but this is not that good,atleast can someone draw better.

[Lohnt]

To be honest I've only read one comic from like the 70's on Gargan.. I don't think he's really been in the spotlight before he got the suit, except in other publications (non Amazing which is the main storyline).

I think he doesn't appear in the 90's.. I have a collection of Amazing Spidey from creation to 2006 but it's in New York, and I can't access it right now.. But honestly I don't think he's been in the spotlight for a while.

As for Anti-anti-Venom (good name!~~~) he'll probably be stronger than anti-venom and Spidey, and we'll get our new Carnage this way.. although I still would prefer Cletus to Gargan.

[manu]

Pay attention to Secret Invasion, nothing happens with Venom/Scorpion. I bet the only thing of substance that comes out of this storyline is a defeated Brock who gets captured by either Norman or Mr. Negative and all the thunderbolts return to previous powerlevels. Though I imagine there is a strong grudge at the end of the fight, Venom was excited to attack spiderman while in the middle of the invasion so i expect to be amused with the last chapter at the very least.

[warbandit66]

Has anybody here been reading the Young X-men series? I've noticed it's received a fair bit of criticism from posters on other forums but I've really enjoyed it so far, especially the latest one, with a new artistic team and character development, and alot of me will probably disagree with me but Ink has got to be the coolest character out of the bunch, dust is pretty awesome too.

I'd like to know what you guys think.

[Lohnt]

I haven't really followed Young X-men, I guess because I'm not too interested in the team. I prefer to hear about Elixir in X-force for example.

Anyway, reviews:
Deadpool: Great issue, love the last page, he really does do something awesome in SI, but no one will ever know. But the series really does seem to focus a lot on the comedy, and in an issue like this, at least the last couple of pages could have used a more serious tone.
New Avengers: Interesting read, nothing more. Nothing exciting really, just stuff about House of M.
Runaways: I agree with the reviews this issue. I didn't particularly like it, bunch of brats all talking at once and having no particular interest, the story didn't even seem to advance all that much. I guess the writing has fallen a bit.
Thunderbolts: Eh, it was good, but not great. Not as good as the previous SI issues anyway. Art has kind of fallen in quality also.

Lastly HRulk:
What can I say.. the arc is finally done (somewhat), we are left more confused than ever. I think people consider the victory to be a one on one battle, when it really wasn't.

As Rulk is about to knock out Hulk, Thor saves him, and as Rulk is going to counterattack Thor (despite him saying he bested him) Hulk jumps him/blindsides him. It really was a 2 on 1 and thus a decent victory.

Status quo was restored by retconning 2 victories, and Rulk's intelligence.

However, the ending is interesting, at the very least I can consider this a crappy 1970's storyline that has potential for Rulk's future. Although I still hate his design (red v. of Hulk).

If they changed his look a little, and continued the focus on him in the Hulk series (because it does seem like he is the protagonist moreso than the Hulk), I wouldn't mind following the story. I don't really care for his identity anymore, since it doesn't make as much of an impact now that the likely suspects are out.

The whole "gave you everything" business is definately interesting though. Makes me wonder if Mastermind or some other smart character (please Doom?) is behind this whole thing.

But anyway, this controversial arc is done and.. thank goodness. I can only say it ended no better (writing wise) than it started so, whatever.

By the way, Samson should be a villain, it really suits him more. He even fits into the whole Thunderbolts dynamic.