Shaman King (Flowers) by Takei Hiroyuki

[Maxy Barnard]

Looks like it'll be a great chapter, but... Man, Takei's really spreading the Shaman King franchise all over, having more Zero chapters on the horizon and whatnot. I mean I love his work enough to be fine with it, but damn

[kkck]

Any news on chapter 11? It has been a while since the last one...

[Nensense]

Any news on chapter 11? It has been a while since the last one...

You know, you could always check Mankin Trad's website.
But there isn't a chapter this month because Takei is taking a break this month. She apparently didn't give a chapter for Jumbor or Ultimo either.

[andysislands]

The last 2 months were really busy for me...

Don't worry, we'll be back on "schedule" starting next month. So it all works out in the end. Plus with the delay, we'll probably include the poster in with chapter 11's release.

[kkck]

BUMP! CHAPTER OUT!

Nice long chapter, and so the plot thickens.

I was a tad disappointed by the meeting between the asakuras and hao. I thought we would actually see more. Its somehow fitting that the first word that hana would learn is dummy.... Kinda like the first thing he had to learn is how insult people. Probably learned that to have something to call his father by. I wonder what it is that they extorted hao with though. Is it the time we saw his mom slap him?

I was a tad surprised by the oni revelations this chapter. Its one thing that there is an oni type beyond the cho oni but shit gets real when there is an oni that not even hao could suppress. Why would hao have to do that? For that matter, why would reviving someone be difficult for him?

I guess the biggest clue in the chapter is the other god thingy it had going on. Why are there 2 gods, 2 shaman kings? If that is true then the entire first part of the manga kind of trolled us. And then we get to the somewhat metaphysical discussion of whether the shaman king can truly be god if there are 2 of them.

Anyways, as far as the other god thing something did come to my mind.... During the first part of the manga we saw that the last patch guardian used an alien as a spirit. It was aliens who originally introduced the shaman king tournament to earth perhaps to study the shaman king itself. Now, if they had a shaman king in their world... would that mean that their world has their own independent shaman king or would it be the same as the one on earth? Perhaps that is what lead to two gods, each planet and civilization had its own god. Of course the alien one would be older by far and due to the sheer amount of souls that would exist there (potential more than in our own shaman king) due to the longer time existing it would be actually more powerful than hao. Perhaps the other god is the reason hao had trouble reviving them. If that is the case then I still have no clue of why an allpowerful oni would be planted inside hana.

Somehow I expected hana to actually require medical treatment. Usually severe head trauma is something which would have hospitalized people in this manga. Perhaps the onis also healed him though.

[andysislands]

BUMP! CHAPTER OUT!

Nice long chapter, and so the plot thickens.

I was a tad disappointed by the meeting between the asakuras and hao. I thought we would actually see more. Its somehow fitting that the first word that hana would learn is dummy.... Kinda like the first thing he had to learn is how insult people. Probably learned that to have something to call his father by. I wonder what it is that they extorted hao with though. Is it the time we saw his mom slap him?

I was a tad surprised by the oni revelations this chapter. Its one thing that there is an oni type beyond the cho oni but shit gets real when there is an oni that not even hao could suppress. Why would hao have to do that? For that matter, why would reviving someone be difficult for him?

I guess the biggest clue in the chapter is the other god thingy it had going on. Why are there 2 gods, 2 shaman kings? If that is true then the entire first part of the manga kind of trolled us. And then we get to the somewhat metaphysical discussion of whether the shaman king can truly be god if there are 2 of them.

Anyways, as far as the other god thing something did come to my mind.... During the first part of the manga we saw that the last patch guardian used an alien as a spirit. It was aliens who originally introduced the shaman king tournament to earth perhaps to study the shaman king itself. Now, if they had a shaman king in their world... would that mean that their world has their own independent shaman king or would it be the same as the one on earth? Perhaps that is what lead to two gods, each planet and civilization had its own god. Of course the alien one would be older by far and due to the sheer amount of souls that would exist there (potential more than in our own shaman king) due to the longer time existing it would be actually more powerful than hao. Perhaps the other god is the reason hao had trouble reviving them. If that is the case then I still have no clue of why an allpowerful oni would be planted inside hana.

Somehow I expected hana to actually require medical treatment. Usually severe head trauma is something which would have hospitalized people in this manga. Perhaps the onis also healed him though.

(Poster will be with Chapter 12... working to see if we can get it to be a 1:1 ratio... you know, just because)

As for the "Other god" I look at it more this way. Shamans bring back "dead people." So the Shaman King is really the god of the dead. So the other god would be the "god of the living." I could see Takei playing around with something like that. And of course, you can have things that blend the line there, like with aliens. This would allow Mu to be the Shaman King's land and whoever the other god would have their own land as well.

Additionally, the power of the "living god's followers" may only affect the living (not spirits). So that's why the spirits needed to be taken away, since they may be less effected.

[kkck]

Well, a god of the living would be a weird approach here. The great spirit has a very clear explanation in regards to its nature. Its a conglomeration of spirits of great power and within it spirits form societies with other similar spirits. Now, what would a god of the living look like? Would it be a god in a more traditional sense? Or perhaps a spirit with power so overwhelming it can individually match up to the great spirit? Of course the living are not quite going to unite to form another god.

In particular the manga used the term "other" god. In light of that I would think the manga suggests the other god would be something similar to the great spirit itself. Otherwise it would make more sense to refer to it as something different to what they consider to be god, not as another...

[rogueSleipnir]

Takei is really pushing it with all the "Flower" references :P.

Alumi staying with florists now huh.

Anyway, from google I saw it said that Rutherfor (Alien Patch Guardian) had alluded to the "Flower of Maize" during the previous Shaman Fight. In which chapter was that?

Also, Alumi stated in the first chapters that the Flower of Maize was the next battle or phase now that the King has been appointed. She said it was the "battle for the sky", IIRC. Is there any mention that this battle happened before?

Here's my theory: The Shaman King, specifically our Earth's Shaman King is the Captain for the said Battle for the Sky. And there are other Kings, probably from other Planets?? And that pyramid thing is an alien.

Edit: So they only used the term "other god", so I presume that there's only a singular threat. Maybe it is an alien/race that wants to destroy the earth and that the SK is the earth's greatest force against it.

We also should remember why the alien gave humans shaman-tech, which was to study the heart.

[Sarex]

I just finished Shaman King and Flowers and I have a question. Is Yoh alive in Flowers?

[Raijatsu]

We don't know yet, it can be presumed he is in hiding or dead, though Haoh would just revive him if needed.

[Sarex]

What is confusing me is that in that last chapter of shaman king we see Anna and Yoh alive and well, and Hanna is older that he was when he got shoot(so we know that the chapter takes place after the shooting), but in flowers it is alluded that Yoh is not alive.(at least that is the feeling I got from it)

[kkck]

I just finished Shaman King and Flowers and I have a question. Is Yoh alive in Flowers?

Yes, the timeline does suggest he is alive and everything. Shaman king ended with yoh as an adult going home to hana when he was even younger than now. The age hana and yoh appeared to have suggest this took place after the two of them died and were revived.

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raw out!

Cant wait for the translation