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Thread: The concept of "Genius" in NARUTO

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    Re: Who is the greatest genius in NARUTO ?

    Naruto already finished Fuuton: Rasengan, he's working on the next generation after that Fuuton: Rasenshuriken.

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    Re: Who is the greatest genius in NARUTO ?

    Einstein was a genius coz he created E=mc². whatever anyone else does with it will never be genuine as this.

    naruto's rasengan are just two already known thing combined. naruto hast shown anything yet that makes him a genius. but i am pretty sure that one day he will be one.

    like everyone in this manga, each and everyone will surpass their past model. sasuke will surpass oro, sakura will surpass tsunade, and naruto will surpass jiraya and 4th one day.

    imagine if kakashi had unlimited chakra like naruto, now he' be creating magic jutsu's by now, hell he was even the one who came up with the training method.

    and it was minato who gave naruto this feat.

    naruto as yet to show something totally genuine, but i am pretty sure that it will come in time, so all the naruto fanboys, hang on a little^^
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    Re: Who is the greatest genius in NARUTO ?

    Einstein also could not tie his shoes.....

    Naruto's Rasenshuriken is his own toy, Minato's work stopped at Fuuton: Rasengan.

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    Re: Who is the greatest genius in NARUTO ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Decorus View Post
    Einstein also could not tie his shoes.....

    Naruto's Rasenshuriken is his own toy, Minato's work stopped at Fuuton: Rasengan.
    Minato's work stopped at Rasengan, Fuuton Rasengan is Naruto's own creation. FRS is just a variation of FR, which is still only half done.




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    Re: Who is the greatest genius in NARUTO ?

    Doesn't matter. Naruto is still tweaking a base model...that he got the idea TO tweak from the original creator...


    Its hardly original thought, and therefore not worthy of the same credit.

    Not many people can tell you who invented the jet engine, but damn near everyone can tell you the Wright Brothers were the first to make a working airplane.

    This is even more pervasive than that, as Minato literally left the IDEA for rasengans next step...but couldn't complete it himself. The thought never even occurred to Naruto.
    Last edited by ANBU4U; February 21, 2008 at 10:31 PM.

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    Re: Who is the greatest genius in NARUTO ?

    True but the thing is Minato basically just created the wings of the plane where as Naruto is looking to complete it. Minato's objective was to create an elemental rasengan, he couldn't finish his very creation.




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    Re: Who is the greatest genius in NARUTO ?

    I prefer this analogy.

    Minato made a biplane.
    Naruto finished Minato's concept sketches of a Jet engine plane.
    Naruto then took his finished Jet engine based on conceptual designs by Minato and is currently working on a scramjet.

    Would you say all the props for modern planes belong to the Wright brothers, because they came up with the first plane?
    Or would you say all the hard work of all the people who came after them deserve thier own credit.

    I'm fairly certain when you look at the Chidori varients Sasuke came up with you go "Man Sasuke is a fucking genius."

    Give Naruto the same credit you would give Sasuke after all for all we know every single one of those except the sword is just stuff Orochimaru came up with for Sasuke to use.
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    Re: Who is the greatest genius in NARUTO ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Decorus View Post
    I prefer this analogy.

    Minato made a biplane.
    Naruto finished Minato's concept sketches of a Jet engine plane.
    Naruto then took his finished Jet engine based on conceptual designs by Minato and is currently working on a scramjet.

    Would you say all the props for modern planes belong to the Wright brothers, because they came up with the first plane?
    Or would you say all the hard work of all the people who came after them deserve thier own credit.

    I'm fairly certain when you look at the Chidori varients Sasuke came up with you go "Man Sasuke is a fucking genius."

    Give Naruto the same credit you would give Sasuke after all for all we know every single one of those except the sword is just stuff Orochimaru came up with for Sasuke to use.
    I give sasuke credit for the thought, He realized on his own more could be done with what he had and did so by his own methods.... but much like the man who made phones cellular he was only improving on an old model. Would he have ever thought of such a jutsu on his own? Perhaps, perhaps not.

    Naruto on the other hand had everything laid out for him, more or less. I don't think people on this forum understand the genius takes to form an original thought, something thats never been conceived before. It seems simple in retrospect....the the conceptualization of gravity for instance...but still to realize something like that is....epiphany.

    Regardless, this isn't the point. The question was "who's the greatest genius in Naruto" my answer was Minato because I value conception...original thought. Which neither Sasuke nor naruto have truly displayed.

    I believe making something better, and MAKING something are two different things.

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    Re: Who is the greatest genius in NARUTO ?

    making something from scrath, now thats genius.

    the guy/gal who invented the zip is the greatest genius ever. there is nothing like it in the whole world. nature never produced something like it.

    now making something from nothing. naruto was told to do stuff. he just followed minato's and Kakashi's guidance word by word.
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    Re: Who is the greatest genius in NARUTO ?

    If that's the case then Rikudou Sennin is the greatest since he laid the foundation for ninjutsu, which spawned Rasengan, Chidori and others.




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    Re: Who is the greatest genius in NARUTO ?

    he might even be, but as of now, we really know too little to include into our theories.
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    Re: Who is the greatest genius in NARUTO ?

    Sasuke strikes when his opponents are weak.

    Sasuke breaks MS genjutsu by pure hatred.

    Sasuke defeated Orochimaru unscathed.

    Sasuke summoned Manda without needing chakra.


    If you guys can't see that Sasuke is the greatest genius in NARUTO, then you must be as blind as Itachi.
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    Re: Who is the greatest genius in NARUTO ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oblivion View Post
    he might even be, but as of now, we really know too little to include into our theories.
    We know that he gave birth do ninjutsu so having the concept of creation is the key to ingeniousness then Rikudou is undoubtedly the greatest.




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    Re: Who is the greatest genius in NARUTO ?

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    We know that he gave birth do ninjutsu so having the concept of creation is the key to ingeniousness then Rikudou is undoubtedly the greatest.
    maybe it was totally easy for him coz he has the renningan...but if he invented the reningan, now that'd be awesome.
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    Re: Who is the greatest genius in NARUTO ?

    Even though Rikudo sennin had the rinnegan, he still came up with every ninjutsu (and I have forgotten but maybe all jutsu as in every genjutsu and taijutsu too) from scratch (assuming he truly did it from scratch as the legend claims), which does indeed make him the greatest genius in the Naruto world. Rikudo sennin, however, is not really a character of the manga at this point. He is a historical figure within the Naruto mythos, but he isn't a character and I thought this topic was only based on Naruto characters. If we start including characters from the Naruto mythos, then perhaps Jashin is the greatest character, since according Hidan's people he created everything. Mythological figures don't count.

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