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Multiple coaches in SD have been fired because of Rivers' ineptitude, plus the ineptitude of the defense. Rivers has been there for eight years now and there's never any talk of him being gotten rid of.
Don't laugh, Turner is one of the best offensive coordinators in the league. He's a lot like Wade Phillips; a mediocre head coach but brilliant as a coordinator.Quote:
That's right. Rivers has only ever had two coaches, Schottenheimer and Turner.Quote:
It would be a stretch to say that any coach was fired because of Rivers. Scottenheimer was fired for being Schottenheimer, a great coach in the regular season, but disaster in the playoffs. He had the same flaws in SD as he did in KC and Cleveland. San Diego's lack of postseason success can be attributed as much (or more) to Marv as it was to Rivers. Norv Turner will also be fired for being Norv Turner. His play calling late games and clock management are as questionable now as when he was coaching the Redskins. He is a mediocre coach, not horrible, but may never be one to take a team deep into the playoffs.
Philip Rivers had some very good years. He may have been overrated in his prime, and his skills have clearly declined, but I don't think it would be right to say he is a bad quarterback. Blaine Gabbert is a bad quarterback. Jon Skelton is a bad quarterback. Rivers is solid with the right supporting cast. Notice his decline has coincided with the departure of LT, decline of Antonia Gates, and departure of Vincent Jackson. San Diego has no talent at the skill positions. Since Marcus Mcneill's injury they line has been unsteady too. He's definitely out in SD as soon as they are in position to sign or draft another quarterback. But he will be signed somewhere else, to be a starter, very quickly. In the right situation he may even thrive.
Assuming Tebow was still there, I'm not going to say Denver would be in the drivers seat of that division. That's all speculative anyway, of course.
I wasn't laughing at the idea of Turner being here, but it's just funny considering the Cameron situation. Plus, it's assuming Turner would want to coach next year and Cameron would be fired. How many firings can the team make if they do about as well as last year? What if they're fortunate enough to make it to the Super Bowl?
I pretty much agree with your sentiment regarding Schottenheimer. When he was fired, no one was down on Rivers. They did however have the same "soft" reputation they have now and haven't been able to shake for years. I'm glad we dodged that bullet and hired Harbaugh instead.
No more than speculation of course, but the rest of the AFC is really bad. KC might be the worst team in the NFL, and the Raiders are not much better. Mediocrity would have been enough to win that division.
The Chargers always had a reputation as "November's team". They always started slowly, surged in November, entered the playoffs with a lot of momentum, only to lose sooner than anyone thought they would. That did not change after Schottenheimer left either. San Diego reminds me a little bit of Indy last year. The team has made some poor draft choices the last four or five years, and the lack of young talent really shows.
Considering the Ravens are a win away from clinching a playoff berth, I would also find it hard to believe they would fire their long time offensive coordinator. I've already shared my thoughts with you regarding Cameron. But as long as the Ravens are winning his job is safe.
Last edited by Kaiten; November 27, 2012 at 03:24 PM.
Bisciotti could fire him, I suppose. That sounds more like how the Raiders did business though, not the Ravens. Losing early in the divisional round of playoffs too many times is about the only thing I can think of that can justify that.
And regarding the Eagles - no one in the NFL should have an emo haircut, especially a QB. That is clearly what they need to remedy first.
Well, Cam played well (3 TDs and no picks), but the Chiefs got a magical win after the Belcher issue. Brady Quinn actually does something for the first time in his career.
Bad luck for your Ravens there, Gary, especially as Big Ben wasn't out there and Sanders fumbled away a reception that probably should've been run out for a TD.
I just wish that SD could've stopped Ray Rice last week.
Lord knows, I'm not complaining. Nothing washes the foul taste of that absolutely heinous loss to the Browns like going into Baltimore and coming out with a win. I feel like the shock of last week has made the whole team play better. The defense is has tightened up a good bit, the O-line is playing great, and the running backs all have a renewed interest in ball security.
Once we have a real passing game again things could get interesting.
Yeah, Batch is pretty bad, but he made a few plays here and there.
I didn't watch much of the game, so I missed out on Batch hitting the sound guy.
It'll be interesting to see what happens come playoff time. I think that the Texans are overrated, but we'll see.
It amazes me how many intermediate passes Flacco throws above the heads of his receivers. He throws a beautiful deep ball, and is deadly accurate short. His intermediate passing attempts almost never seem to go where they need to go.
It's funny Sanchez gets benched the same week Tebow is on the inactive list I sense a plot in the force!
Good win by the Steelers way to show some life
OMG there almost another tie yesterday
No, it does not help that Ray Rice is short, but plenty of other QBs throw to short players and don't have problems.