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Kenpachi will still trash Tousen
A fierce fight but Kenpachi will still emerge as victorious
Vizard+enma korogi only would beat Kenpachi
Tousen's resurreccion only would defeat Kenpachi
Both Tousen's powers (hollow and vizard-assisted shinigami) are necessary to Kenpachi
Tousen using the abilities displayed during his original match would suffice for victory
Draw/Too close to call
Discussion on Tousen-Zaraki, and it's meaning in relation to the story, goes here.
Tousen wasn't serious about killing Zaraki, until the last second in their last fight anyone else would have died under that kind of punishment and I believe by the end of the arc Zaraki will die at Tousen's hands or nothing will happen between them
My proof about the first fight is when Tousen is going for the stab that would have killed Zaraki, he finally understands that Kenpachi is too evil to be kept alive. But, Kenpachi caught Tousen's hand and sliced him with a slice that would have badly wounded any of the captains, except probably the first himself.
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vital spots basically the entire fight. If he were to use bankai on Kenpachi again, he wouldn't be able to touch him. Kenpachi completely figured out Tousen's bankai by the end of the fight.
He figured out how to beat Suzumushi's bankai but not Tousen's true zanpakuto remember it's not tousen's original zanpakuto which has yet to be seen and 9/10 tousen is a Vizard
Proof it's not Tousen's original Zanpakuto
and as I was saying before Tousen going for the final shot was going for the kill shot not just vitals you can still live with wounds to vital organs:
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I base most of my Zanpakuto information based on manga info that comes down to:
the Zanpakuto once fully realized is it's own being and can change based on it's holder but never fully be changed to a completely different being all together. I get the proof from what's happening with Ichigo who has been close to the edge of death many times but Zangetsu(as both the old man and Hollow Ichigo,who is now the soul of Zangetsu from what he's said in the manga) has acted on it's own to help Ichigo but has never once actually needed to keep Ichigo alive since it's has it's own soul can heal on it's own and only needs Ichigo to wield him,since no one else can unlike Tousen who seems to have the ability to wield another's zanpakuto. remember apologizer has the ablility to make the person's weapon heavier but it's not because apologizer is heavy or the wielder can't move that fast as it's seen the wielder can use his zanpakuto's shikai with one hand without much problem
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and look what I said about the apologizer
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I think had tousen chosen to decapitate kenpachi when he first activated bankai then ken would be dead. Tousen kept cutting kenpachi which gave ken time to figure how to counter tousen's bankai and use it to his advantage. If zaraki fought tousen again, then I would have to pick zaraki cuz he is aware of tousen's skills.
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/146/14/ <---- This is not a vital organ hit. This is the first hit Tousen gives Kenpachi when in his bankai. This should of been a blow to cut the head off, but it wasn't. Tousen held Kenpachi's life in his hand but he failed to stop lecturing and just do the darn deed.
It really doesn't matter, this is just the way that Kubo decided to write the story. You can't even say that Kenpachi wouldn't have avoided dying if Tousen went for the vitals from the first strike. If Kubo had chosen to write it that way, Kenpachi still would have survived. This was just a better way of introducing Tousen's bankai.