232 Discussion [Bleach]

[ryderdm3]

Grimmjow is fine. He released and manages to survive as Ichigo loses his mask. Grimmjow goes in for the attack when Ishida's arrow nearly takes his head. Ichigo is surprised and thankful to see Ishida. However, Ishida reveals that he has two enemies in this fight, Grimmjow and Ichigo.

Meanwhile Rukia arrives in the human world. Ulqiorra knocks her aside with ease and waits for Inoue to show up. Chapter ends.

[animefeen]

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Now Ulq...is way more powerful than Grimmjaw and Ichigo in hollow form is more power than Ulq. so if grimmjaw is still alive I will be disappoint in the manga seriously...

[ryderdm3]

I forgot about that. I still don't think Ichigo is quite there yet. I believe he has the potential to be extremely overpowering. However I think he still needs that last push to get him to achieve that power. I think Grimmjow's release will have been enough to save him....somewhat. By the time the smoke clears, Ichigo's chance will have ended.

[Konkun]

The fight with Grimjow is not over yet. Ichigo used his trump card too quickly....then again he didnt have time to play around so I guess he had to put his mask on. Once the move is finished, we will see Gimjow barely escaping certain death. Ichigo will be in trouble and we will see another chat with Hichigo. I really do want to see Urahara fight. We havent seen much of him so his fight will be highly anticipated. As for Isshin, he definatly will play a role in this invasion.

[august roa]

i think a major ass whoopin' for grimjow is in order

[venicia777]

i think a major ass whoopin' for grimjow is in order

that is if ichigo manages to ass whoop him in 11 secs. lets not forget that grimjaw isnt even in his release state yet.

and lets not compare chigo in hollow form's power with hollow ichigo's power. For aizen to have espada as his top brass, lets not underrate them at all. For one, i am sure aizen already knows about the presence of vizards, but you dont see him been to worried about that. probably this raid may give him a better clue apart vizards strengths from ichigos 11 sec releases.

[Hermie]

I'm guessing Ichigo will get whopped AGAIN, the only time he has won this entire arc was against his hollow. :/



But then Urahara, and everything will be fine. ^^

[jabbament]

Now would be a good time for Ishida to come back in the picture (he needs to make a flashy entrance), but I think it'd be better for Ichigo to finally find out Isshin is a Shinigami.

So, I hope it goes something like:

Ichigo gets his ass kicked when Grimmjaw releases -> Hitsugaya and co. all get their asses kicked -> Isshin saves Ichigo and kills Grimmjaw -> Urahara appears and takes on Ruby while Hitsugaya takes on Yamii -> Matsumoto goes back to trying what to do with Wonderboy (Wonderweiss)-> Wonderboy wanders off randomly 'cuz he saw something shiney -> Matsumoto helps Hitsugaya with Yamii -> Ikkaku and Yumichika go cry in a corner 'cuz they can't fight since they won't double team anything.

Or all of the sudden everyone suffers from random heart attacks and Raito/Light/Kira magically appears and decides to take over this world.

[venicia777]

Now would be a good time for Ishida to come back in the picture (he needs to make a flashy entrance), but I think it'd be better for Ichigo to finally find out Isshin is a Shinigami.

So, I hope it goes something like:

Ichigo gets his ass kicked when Grimmjaw releases -> Hitsugaya and co. all get their asses kicked -> Isshin saves Ichigo and kills Grimmjaw -> Urahara appears and takes on Ruby while Hitsugaya takes on Yamii -> Matsumoto goes back to trying what to do with Wonderboy (Wonderweiss)-> Wonderboy wanders off randomly 'cuz he saw something shiney -> Matsumoto helps Hitsugaya with Yamii -> Ikkaku and Yumichika go cry in a corner 'cuz they can't fight since they won't double team anything.

Or all of the sudden everyone suffers from random heart attacks and Raito/Light/Kira magically appears and decides to take over this world.

nice prediction. But it feels to me after revealing Uraharas desire to fight kubo might stave off isshin's appearance/identity to Ichigo. But it would be nice to see that happen.
ichigo is gonna need some help- all the others. i read the chapters involving ulquioras first appearance again- and the way he fought- urahara and the others may sure need some help.

[jabbament]

nice prediction. But it feels to me after revealing Uraharas desire to fight kubo might stave off isshin's appearance/identity to Ichigo. But it would be nice to see that happen.
ichigo is gonna need some help- all the others. i read the chapters involving ulquioras first appearance again- and the way he fought- urahara and the others may sure need some help.

I wouldn't think Urahara needs help. When Urahara went against Yamii and Ulquiora stepped in, I doubt Urahara was using all his power. The translation I have (M7) says:





I don't get the impression that Urahara was trying. Cero/Zero/Sero (however you want to call it), seemed like it was one of Yamii's more powerful attacks and Urahara dealt with it effortlessly. I think Urahara is going to be "backed into a corner" a bit, and he is either going to show us more of Benehime's powers or he might release his bankai finally.

And I hope Ichigo finds out soon. Isshin is an awesome character, and I want to see more of him...but Ishida might appear and kill Grimmjaw also. He needs to show off his new powers, and I'm curious what Ishida and Ichigo's relationship is going to be considering Ishida promised his father he'd have no more dealings with Shinigami.

So many different ways for these next chapters to go. I'm looking forward to seeing how bad-ass Urahara really is...

[Makiyura]

i truly agree with ur statement! ppl should know taht Urahara is stronger than anyone believes he is! i cant wait to see some krazy new stuff from him! GG!

[rocker2]

If Urahara powerful enough to take on Rupee, then Ichigo should have no problem with Grimmjow. Both should be at or close to a senior captain's power at bankai, but Ichigo now has his hollow form to propel him past that. He still will be at a fraction of hollow form, full power, but he should be powerful enough already to take on Grimmjow. There are many more espada plus Aizen up the ladder from Grimmjow that Ichigo will need to surpass. As for the senior captains, they need to improve as well. Having Urahara, who was a senior captain, have a cakewalk with the currently attacking espada would defeat the purpose of needing SS to improve their forces. I can see the senior captains hold their own against Yamii, espada #10, but they shouldn't have enough power yet to take on 6 and up. They need room to improve, not to mention that vastroode without the arrancar upgrade should be their equals or better to begin with.

[jabbament]

One thing you're forgetting, rocker, is that these are not Aizen's ultimate forces. To him, they're nothing more than tests and cannon-fodder. The only one there who has the potential to be useful to him is Wonderweiss (Since Aizen made him personally by temporarily enhancing/unlocking the Hogyoku with his Reiatsu).

Aizen cannot create his ultimate forces until he can completely unseal Hogyoku...so all of these hollows (Grimmjaw, Yamii, Ruby, Ulquiorra...well, maybe not Ulquiorra as I get the feeling he's extremely strong..much stronger than Grimmjaw) are only a percentage of what they would have been if the Hogyoku was fully unsealed when they were created.

Having the Soul Society forces on the same level as this group of hollows isn't a bad thing, since they're suddenly going to get much stronger when Hogyoku is finally unsealed. I'm sure we're going to see a big boost in Aizen's forces, and if not, then Soul Society is going to have to deal with hundreds (maybe even thousands) of hollows as strong or stronger than Grimmjaw/Ruby/Yamii/Ulquiorra.

No matter how strong everyone from Soul Society is, Aizen has potentially an unlimited amount of hollows to play with. Yes, there are a limited number of Ajuca and Vastrode, but I think this "limited" number is still in the hundreds, as the total number of hollows is what? Well, we don't know, but we do know its helluva high up there.

[senkei33]

seeing how 10 or 12 vastrode could take down soul society, i highly doubt that the number would be in the hundreds....aizen force will be strong...but not that overwhelmingly

and i don't believe that all of his subjects are considered "cannon fodder", you saw the punishment grimmjow got for having just a few arrancar get killed...it was enough to get him kicked out of the espada

because ichigo is the main character his true potential and power i believe is the greatest in this series, for him to be around as many months as he has for being a shinigami, he is ridiculously strong, grimmjow should be pretty much done now, and i think that is were Ulquiorra will step in to either try and recruit ichigo or kill him

[phatlee]

Next chapter, hitsugaya goes bankain vs yami but kisuke steps in, yami wants to get revenge but hitsugaya inisist to defeat him. Kisuke agrees & tell him that he shall take care of matsumoto freak. Yumichiki get his ass kicked when he finally decides to use his shikai, maybe we'll see more of its potential. Grimmjaw survives ichigos hollow like fury by releasin his form at the last second. Ulq gets to useless Rukia n ask away where s Inoue she refused get her ass kicked instantly when Isshin steps in. => chap 233 fight!
It would b great if we get to see kisuke's bankai but i doubt it. Maybe we'll get to see isshin shikai.... so much to see
P.S: Jabbament, even if there s an army of Ajuca & Vastrode i m sure Kenpachi would luv it, he prolly learned shikai & bankai already!