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Translations: Bleach 600 by BadKarma
Last edited by Roflkopt3r; April 17, 2011 at 04:20 AM.
Berserk has become way too much concentrated on two characters and their rather fancy rivalry.
Vinland saga on the other hand has been so open to its world so far.Many characters with many varied goals,moving the plot in such way that shows so many layers of its society and world...its scale has been quite grandiose. Its been very near to the perfect mixture of introspection and looking at the greater scope of the wider world.
But i will be lying if i say i'm not worried a little at this stage. I hope yukimura won't turn VS into a philosophy-centred one. That will be a let down for me.
Last edited by ashher; April 17, 2011 at 06:14 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Hm I shouldn't have written that last sentence... Berserk's depth is really often underestimated, and I don't really mean that Vinland Saga is deeper than Berserk. I just mean that it's much closer to reality not only superficially (no fantasy monsters and stuff) but also in it's social interactions and dependencies.
The choice on how many characters Berserk focusses also really doesn't have to do anything with it imo, and again this is going quite far into the corner of analyzing Berserk, which obviously isn't the goal of the Vinland Saga Board.
Then we know that Einar was brought to Ketil's farm at the end June of 1015. There he started working with Thorfinn. Then we saw a "Knut's methods" (or Canute if you want) at some part of year 1015. After that in september 1015 Einar and Thorfinn "Needs a Horse". In October they started planting seeds. In November the seeds sprouted out and Thorgrin, son of Ketil, comes back to the farm. Later the servants ruined Einar's and Thorfinn's plantation, which leads to fight. Thorfinn lands a first punch and after that he's knocked out and in his dream he meets people of his past (Thors, Askeladd, Bjorn...). Einar show his might and puts a epic fight againts servants. Servants wents away to tell their master about this.
In latest chapter we've transfered into year 1018, when Knut is going to his brother.
This might be better.
- Einar arrives at Ketil's farm where he meets Thorfinn
June - September
- Knut begins to fall under the curse of crown
- Einar and Thorfinn meets headmaster of Ketil's farm and begin some kind of friendly relationship with him
- Einar and Thorfinn starts planting seeds
- Seeds sprouts out and Thorgrin, son of Ketil, comes back to the farm
- Servants ruins Einar's and Thorfinn's plantation
- Which leads to fight
- Thorfinn is knocked out and in his dream he meets people of his past
- Einar show his might and puts a epic fight againts servants
- Servants goes away to tell their master about this
- Knut is going to see his brother and still falls deeper and deeper under the curse of the crown
Thorfinn is probably 19 or 20 years old in Slave arc. Einar is 20 years old. But maybe even 21 during arc, because we don't know when he have birthday And for November, It's not definitive that all of that happened in November.
If you want to edit or add something then go ahead. I hope that I didn't wrote some incorrect informations. But I hope thats not the case.
EDIT: Now when I re-read Slave arc (again, I wonder how many times I already read it) I really admire how well does Yukimura thought up new characters. Einar is simply awesome, great understanding friend and his character is simply epic. Ketil is a kind man who wants to help people (as we saw from the robbery incident). Old Ketil is wise old man who slightly guides Thorfinn and Einar in their lives of slaves. And Patil, I find this character very but very interesting, he was a slave, worked hard and bought freedom for himself but stay with his former master, I assume that he is aware of Ketil's kindness. He sympathize with other slaves but he is still fair and that is what makes him interesting in my eyes. As we saw in robbery incdent he comes up with utterly fair and logical resolution.
I wonder what he will do when Einar and Thorfinn gets to the master after recent fight.
But damn, Yukimura Makoto is genius. And when it comes to the characters he is awesome genius. He makes real believable charaters. I'm sorry but I just can't find a better mangaka than him. Still I like many other mangakas like Okamoto Rin (or Lynn if you want) and Hiro Mashima (great shonen mangaka).
Last edited by You Say; April 18, 2011 at 12:15 PM.
But I digress...
I find that a lot of the objective measures of quality for Vinland and Berserk are equal, or close enough to equal. The art, writing, character development, and pace are so good in both that any difference is a matter of preference. Fans of realism might prefer Vinland, fans of fantasy/mythological settings might prefer Berserk. Neither series have any glaring weaknesses, or flaws, to give one a critical edge over the other.
Just for information. In the last volume (10) of Vinland Saga were bonus pages for 71. chapter. Awesome drawing as always.
Last edited by saladesu; May 03, 2011 at 11:10 AM. Reason: 3 images rule
I can't translate but that's some epic facepalm in the bottom corner of page three
Really curious about what happens there!
Here's a miniature of this months Afternoon issue. I must say that is awesome again. I only wonder why Yukimura keeps coloring characters on color pages in such a... interesting way. He gives them a greeny blond hair. Now a blue on a clothes (highly unlikely in year 1018). I like this different style, but still I like more "normal" colors like classic blond and lighty brown clothes. But nah, let's just enjoy this awesome cover.
And I'm sorry to moderators for my previous post. I will make sure that it won't happen again. When I gets some high quality version I'll put it into Color/Cover thread.
Still I wonder what happened in this chapter. Maybe there were even Thorfinn and It wasn't only Knut's chapter... Too bad that Einar didn't get his place on the cover.
Last edited by You Say; May 07, 2011 at 12:48 PM.
Hey guys. Been reading VS for a while, but didn't realize there was a subforum here at MangaHelpers XD
Hey, have this been licensed outside japan?
I really like where Thorfinn is going. Trying to live with Christian ideals in the XI century must have been nearly impossible.