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WB pirates Portgas D. Ace
shichibukai Trafalgar Law
Battleground: Banaro Island
Last edited by TheLuffySmile; November 12, 2013 at 10:14 AM.
Ace. Doesn't take much thinking.
Ace brings this home easy?
To be honest, Ace based on his position and reputation should win this; he was considered one of Whitebeard's top captains and a pirate of some note in his own right. However, Ace's showings weren't particularly impressive. If I consider purely what they've shown, Law would probably win this.
Did Law have the Haki that is required to cut a Logia back then? I don't think any of the Worst Gen Supernova did back in Part I since Kizaru shat on a bunch of them.
Ace more or less demolishes Law.
If in your opinion Ace demolishes Law then he should win with Doflamingo without much problem- is that what you want to say?
Ace simply was unlucky to challenged the two main villains in the story. Nevertheless, he undoubtedly fought equally against a current Yonkou, and fodderized the BB Pirates(excluding their Captain), that's no small feat at all.
EDIT: For another example, take Marco. I don't understand how this guy can lose even if his opponent is Gol D Roger. And yet, we see him get punched and actually hurt by Garp.
Last edited by KingOfNight; November 19, 2013 at 10:59 AM.
Entei > Law's "ROOM". And even if Ace is inside the "ROOM" how is Law going to counter Hiken? Hibashira? Law is strong but Ace has a lot of huge AOE attacks, and he was able to survive in the NW easily, even with all the experienced Haki users out there. I'm gonna go with Ace.
Last edited by TheLuffySmile; November 19, 2013 at 11:29 AM.
And this Ace 'fought against a current Yonkou' is pretty meaningless. When Ace lost to BB, BB had a single fruit and two years less experience, and less imposing crewmembers; the Yonkou that is BB is incomparable with the individual Ace fought. The only feat that BB had was probably the defeat of Ace. BB's flight, even alongside his entire crew, when faced with Akainu shows how far he remained from the top before the timeskip. The mention of Marco isn't helpful either; what makes Marco's fruit hax is the regeneration aspect, hurting him isn't the problem.
Last edited by Impossibility; November 19, 2013 at 12:33 PM.
Well, I doubt ace could actually just stomp law if the general assumption is that he was roughly at the level luffy is today. Law didn't get to shichibukai for nothing here. Its not just about law not being able to deal with ace's attacks either. I mean, I would argue he would do the same as any other swordsman in the series when it comes to blocking even intangible attacks, he would block or cut them with his sword. If ace could just stomp law it would kinda imply he is more or less in league with doflamingo or the admirals and I would argue ace never got to such a level. Honestly, I don't see him even fighting evenly with marco, jozu or vista to be honest. It is already impressive enough that he fought jimbe to a draw (although jinbe has not been shown to be a match to the admirals either and I doubt he would win against doflamingo). I do think ace would win but it would be a pretty difficult match for him.
^ Ace fought Jinbe to a draw years before Marineford, he was equal in his short skirmish with Aokiji, man you guys are underestimating Ace so much. Entei consumed almost half of Banaro Island. You dont think he would be able to fight equally with those 3? Well, to me that is rubbish. And Law can indeed teleport inside his room, but we know the size of his "ROOM" from the fight VS Smoker, and Hibashira/Hiken/Entei would be almost impossible to dodge, not to mention that Law would run out of stamina real fast just running around dodging.
The jinbe incident is relevant however I wouldn't put too much value into the aokiji bit. Take a look at sanji, he stopped doflamingo once but right new he went on to get his ass royally handed to him. I would think of the aokiji thing in roughly the same way as that. For more perspective, smoker had a confrontation with ace and it appeared even however what reason do we have to believe smoker even today would hold a candle to ace? Honestly, I could see luffy stopping attacks from an admiral but I still don't see him winning or even having a shot at all. Safe for the elemental advantage I don't think ace would have fared better against aokiji than he did against akainu. Even if tired the fact that ace got one shotted by akainu is very suggestive in regards as to the true strength of the top of the world. Law don't necessarily have to dodge either. As far as I can tell there is no particular reason for him to be unable to block, cut or redirect the attacks. He has done so in the past and haki works to block that sort of attack. Akainu's attack has been blocked by marco, jinbe, shanks... there is no reason for fire to be unblockable for someone like law.
Last edited by Impossibility; November 19, 2013 at 02:40 PM.