thanks baboysai, I'll definately check this out sometime when I got time to leisurely read again...
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I haven't read the book, but I watched the (disney?) movie of White Fang, which was really good at the time I watched it (as a kid), though I saw WF2 (later on, as an adult) and it sucked, lol.
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about
Where the Red Fern Grows:
Big Dan and Little Ann (the dogs, hehe) are suuuuchhhh a cuuuuuuteeee couple, seriously dogs know how to truly LOVE someone else!
You WILL CRY! Tears of happiness and Tears of sadness, like you have never known! Well, I did anyways *blush*
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Iron Will (I saw as a movie though, not sure if it's a book too) is another great... movie... lol
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110157/ and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Will
it's about a race of sledding dogs... and... I won't spoil the ending...
Spoiler: Warning a huge hint of the spoiler ending!
showThe spoiler ending is truly a heart bursting spoiler ending!
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hehe, someone, actually read that, yay! The rest of the site is great too, about the Mongols, as they're quite fascinating as well, hehe. But, Mongol history, culture, and etc... isn't for everyone, lol
(the Mongol women section is a fun read though, laughs. Unless, it's been changed since last I read it. When I read it, it talked about this girl who physically pwned all these males who wanted her as a wife/mate, hehe)
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Have you seen shows of that english guy, don't know his name, on TV, who lives with wolves. I saw a new show teaser where he's now infusing his new wife into the pack, but it hasn't been on since... they're making it into a DVD series (for money obviously - So, I'm waiting to buy it lol). but in this "teaser" show, he's trying to infuse his new wife (get his wife accepted) into the pack, and so the alpha-male wolf is testing her mental strength, climbing up on her (~100-150 lbs) shoulders and having her neck between its teeth too, to see if she is mentally/emotionally fit/strong to be in the pack (if his wife will freak out or not), and the guy started to freak out quickly as it was his wife just cm's away from death even though he knew and briefed her that this is exactly what would happen, and he goes into the pen to end it. The wife passes anyways, and she eventually is allowed to be the wet-nurse/nanny for the alpha-females newborn cubs by the alpha-female.
anyways, it was sooo cool and "on the edge", hehe
but despite all what seems to us to be dangerous and "wild"/chaotic, the wolves DO have an extremely complex social structure and the guy is able to understand it perfectly, allowing his wife to not only survive it, but to be successful and integrity into the pack, into a role that could never be documented before, the alpha-female's world of (using another to) raise/nurse her cubs (a human female too).
and the wife was using a bottle for the nursing... for any of you who have a perverted mind like me
(anyways, I am so going to order buy it when it comes out!)
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about animal intelligence:
there was a "recent" show, well now its been some time, that talked about our new knowledge/awareness of animal intelligence:
animals fully understand the concept of deception
If you have dogs, you should be fully aware of this!
As long as you're paying attention (and a dog understands that you use sight/eyes), the dog acts all innocent and won't do anything bad... but as soon as you close your eyes or look away (and after some time passes, as the dog is making sure), the dog knows it's now free to do what it wasn't suppose to do, such as steal food...!
the same is seen with other animals too. One scientist would face the food in front of them and these monkeys/apes would not take the food. the experiment is done again, and the human scientist would face away from the food, and the monkey/ape would take the food.
(in hindsight, the scientists realize how obvious it is that animals truly understand the full concept of deception, and its not merely an instinctual behavior by them. As in the wild, they have to know deception in order to survive. Let's say you got a bunch of monkeys in a group. Well, if you can successfully steal food from the other monkeys and they never know it, that's very advantageous, as if you were to get caught, they'd mob-murder you or banish/exile you from the group. And then with all that stolen food, you can go up to that hot female monkey and show her that you can provide for her and your+her now-soon-to-come-baby-monkeys-hehe, like no other male monkey and you get to mate with her, whereas every other monkey has failed to do so, giving you the Nat. Sel. edge of being selected as a mate by her over the other male monkeys)
(which is exactly the same behavior in humans, human females *DO* desire a male who can provide, and that means wealth/money, which means that male human has to be able to make more money than other males can. I can't compete with Bill Gates, as he is far dominant to me in acquiring wealth, the ability to provide for female humans. Wealth is a MAJOR factor of a successful relationship vs an unsuccessful relationship-divorce in humans)
oohh... almost forgot... an experiment was done... and these monkeys/apes literally understand the mathematical concept and principles of economics just as we do! I forgot what exactly was the experiment but I think it involved opportunity costs/bartering, not getting ripped off-lol/understanding values-amounts, and other such basic economic principles that we had previously thought only humans were capable of understanding.
there's this female dog (at least I think the female animal was a dog), that has like 1,000 stuffed animal toys in its "toy room", and knows them ALL by verbal name! the human trainer-scientist says get the purple giraffe and the dogs gets it (and can find it, lol) !!!
but, what was even further amazing... the human trainer-scientist, hid a new stuffed animal into its "toy room" with 1,000 stuffed animals in there, and asked the dog to find the new stuffed animal by verbal description, and the female dog was able to (quickly too)!
(I soooooo need that dog.... with how messy my house+room is and with trying to find my stuff !!!!! LOLOLOLOL)
lastly, they discovered this with some animals as well:
self-awareness (using the dolphin's experiment)
the dolphin trainers/scientists placed a mirror into its tank, and the dolphin would curiously go look at it.
first the dolphin thought it was another dolphin, and tried to get its attention. but, it realized something more was going on. it would then discover the mirror and try to look around/behind it, realizing the mirror's doplhin as a reflection, understanding the concept of a reflection, that it was able to see itself. Suddenly the dolphin starts examining itself, and trying out things (like how it looks when doing things, such as like how guys and girls practice for their first date or in trying to impress or talk to the other gender)
than, to make absolutely sure, the scientists/trainers called the dolphin and they like drew a design on the dolphin making sure the dolphin felt it, as soon as they were done the dolphin immeditately went to the mirror and turned to see what those humans had done to it, at how it looked!
also, the dolphin would go to the mirror and see how cute/attractive it was, like how girls will do with their bodies+clothes+make-up+hairsytles and guys too with their stuff. Trying different things, for a male dolphin: "hmm, do I look more cute, for getting female dolphins, if I do 1 roll to the left and then 2 rolls to the right, or if I do a front roll and than a back role"
etc.. etc...
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