233 Discussion [Bleach]

[gigantor21]

venica - I agree, if Inoue is taken, I don't want Ichigo and co. to just brazenly barge in to Hollow Country and expect to get Inoue back. Even if they can take on the regular Hollows, there's no way they'd be able to break into Aizen's stronghold and face ALL of the Espada, when the weakest Arrancar gave a captain trouble.

In other words, it'd be suicide, like you said.

[ryderdm3]

Aizen and his goons have the advantage right now. They're pushing the pace of this battle and making everyone react to them. For them to get ahold of Inoue at this point would be impossible in my opinion. It would tip the scales even more in Aizen's favor and make SS's eventual counterattack seem lame and DBZ-ish.

I think the kidnapping of Inoue will fail, but two important things will come from it. The first being that Aizen will continue to pursue Inoue and make her an even more important character in the series. And Second, the good guys will have lost this battle overall despite preventing Inoue from being taken. This will be the motivation that SS and Ichigo need to improve enough over the next two months to put up a challenge come winter.

If Inoue is taken now, Aizen will be able to lead large scale assaults on SS and the human world in no time. I don't care how powerful the Vaizards are, the guys in SS and Ichigo won't be able to improve quickly enough to defend human world and prevent Aizen from winning. It's because of that that I feel Inoue will absolutely not be taken this time around.

[near]

idk i think if inoues captured itll do way more for the story. i dont think aizen will lead the large scale attacks any sooner if he captures her. he obviously has a grand plan for her otherwise he wouldnt waste his time. but i seriously doubt shes going to make his forces strong enough to push his attacks foward any sooner.

if aizen captures her its mission complete. his forces back off, probably saving at least a few of the SS getting their asses handed to em, and they all realize inoue has been captured.

first off this can give ichigo the boost he needs to get stronger w/o having to lose to grimmjaw. he realizes he gotten much stronger, but not strong enough to save inoue.

this also gives way more chance to see more of aizens plans and to develop inoue more as a character. really even if shes not captured, who is going to be able to train her and really bring out her powers? those opposing aizen are stretched pretty thin as it is, no ones gonna have time to train inoue into a badass. but aizen could easily evolve her powers. plus, IMO seeing inoue change sides (highly doubtful) or struggle against being used as an inhuman weapon by aizen sounds way more interesting than her remaining good and semi useless.

[ryderdm3]

If Aizen gets her, he will immediately use her to speed up the hogyoku and create vast armies of Espada and other Arrancar. Aizen can easily use his zanpakutou to trick Inoue into seeing and believing anything, and getting her to use her abilities. In addition, he can use her to properly heal any previously injured Arrancar, something that Aizen's troops seem unable to currently do. After that, there will be no need for Aizen to wait around till Winter. The only reason he is waiting right now is because he is waiting for the hogyoku to awaken completely. If he had it at full power, he'd create his army and attack the following day. Do you guys really think that Soul Society, Ichigo, and the Vaizards can really prepare for such an attack in only a few days?

Ichigo won't be beating anyone if he can only hold his mask for 11 seconds. And he has to be the main character of the story. Guys like him won't be ready until Winter, so things have to remain calm until then. If Aizen gets Inoue now, they will all be dead before it even gets chilly outside.

[near]

probably right. i didnt realize until after i posted how mush hell be able to speed up his process once he gets her. still though, i cant wait til she gets captured. i think her character and her powers will evolve so much more with aizen then they ever will with ichigo and crew. id love to see her change sides by her own will, but i doubt its ever going to happen. but still even seeing her be used against her will against ichigo would do wonders for her character.

[venicia777]

If Aizen gets her, he will immediately use her to speed up the hogyoku and create vast armies of Espada and other Arrancar. Aizen can easily use his zanpakutou to trick Inoue into seeing and believing anything, and getting her to use her abilities. In addition, he can use her to properly heal any previously injured Arrancar, something that Aizen's troops seem unable to currently do. After that, there will be no need for Aizen to wait around till Winter. The only reason he is waiting right now is because he is waiting for the hogyoku to awaken completely. If he had it at full power, he'd create his army and attack the following day. Do you guys really think that Soul Society, Ichigo, and the Vaizards can really prepare for such an attack in only a few days?

Ichigo won't be beating anyone if he can only hold his mask for 11 seconds. And he has to be the main character of the story. Guys like him won't be ready until Winter, so things have to remain calm until then. If Aizen gets Inoue now, they will all be dead before it even gets chilly outside.

i agree with your assesment completely. For one i dont really know what SS would do if such a development occurs. the fact is some of us already predicted aizen's plan to capture inoue after seeing him watch inoue through ulquioras recording. if her techniques can get the hogyouku out of hibernation or help in the process in any way, why wont aizen use her.

it would be suicide for SS to mount an all out attack on Hueco Mundo (i am sure they have a way to get into that dimension since the hollows can do vice versa) but that is what i am really hoping for.

[ryderdm3]

I too would like to see Inoue develop more and I think she will. Infact I do think Aizen will get her, but that it won't happen until Winter. Personally, I feel that the good guys are going to need the next 2 months to prepare for the fight. Come winter when the battle is raging on, Aizen will snag Inoue and Ichigo and co. will lead the assault on Hueco Mundo.

I believe that the Vaizards can go to places like SS and Hueco Mundo if they want. It's obvious that they did something in SS already since they were well aware of what Ichigo did there and other happenings.

Of course it's really hard to tell where everyone stands. At the end of 233 I felt that our heroes were in a losing battle and on the brink of annhilation. Now we get 234 and see that

Hitsugaya is alright and may have just killed Luppi. Urahara was hit but we all know he'll be fine. Plus there is renewed sense of confidence in Ikkaku, Matsumoto, and Yamichika (spelling?).

The situation isn't as hopeless as it was. All that concerns me now is the happenings with Inoue and Ichigo.