Your Thoughts on Ichigo

[Eddy01741]

WHat is the point of this topic? I mean seriously, what is it?

If Ichigo hair is getting old, go dye it purple and call yourself shiba kaien or hisagi shuhei.

[Yans86]

I hope that the top 3 espadas won`t be beaten by any captain or all the "Ichigo reiatsu captain level super bankai ecc..."+"vaizard move and power" will be pointless...cause if he need all his vaizard power to beat Ulquiorra,the other captains can be only stronger than him in vizard mode to beat the top 3,but really strong as hell,so his power are going to be meaningless..

[En Yang Ji]

I hope that the top 3 espadas won`t be beaten by any captain or all the "Ichigo reiatsu captain level super bankai ecc..."+"vaizard move and power" will be pointless...cause if he need all his vaizard power to beat Ulquiorra,the other captains can be only stronger than him in vizard mode to beat the top 3,but really strong as hell,so his power are going to be meaningless..

That depends on how the battles go. With all of his vizard powers, there's a chance Ichigo might beat Ulquiorra easily. There's also the possiblity that the top 3 espada are beaten by teams, rather than individual captains.

[Yans86]

Ichigo beaten Ulquiorra easily???we need a miracle :-D!!!last time Ulquiorra stopped all his move and he didn`t use the world and he didn`t even release....

[shoe]

honestly, I dislike ichigo as a protagonist.

I find him boring and overhyped, and I care very little about what happens to him. Part of this is simply because he gets an obscene amount of mid-battle powerups, and while some are explained, most aren't.

in his fight against renji his power suddenly spiked without explanation.
against kenpachi his zanpakto just happened to contact him at just the right time to pull it out
against byakuya his inner hollow makes an appearance
then after having a bunch of realistic and sensible fights, he again gets a random unexplained power up allowing him to hold his mask for as long as he needs it.

that sort of thing makes him seem boring and formulaic, in most major fights either he completely dominates or gets a powerup mid battle to win. This also leads to what I call "goku syndrome" in that he is really the only one who can possibly oppose, threaten or even scratch the bad guy.

From the beginning, while he was clearly stronger than his friends, at least they could do something against villains-heck ishida beat mayuri and shuunsui commented on chads power and determination, and renji could fight pretty evenly with him. but ever since Ichigo achieved bankai he kind of sped along while everybody else in his group slowed to a crawl, which leads to situations where he is the only one who can really do anything in fights anymore. if any of his friends encounter anyone who has even the slightest inkling of power only ichigo possibly save them, but since he has no real personality anymore it's not intriguing to watch him save his friends. I feel as though kubo has forsaken the rest of his group in terms of development to focus on ichigo, but he hasn't made ichigo interesting or likable, and instead of really developing his personality past the cliche "my friends are in danger, I have to drop everything and save them" and instead just made him so much farther than his friends in terms of power and ability that you wonder why he even bothers to bring them along anymore, which makes it boring and predictable.

in short it seems that kubo has sacrificed everyone else's development to focus on ichigo's, but he hasn't really developed ichigo either

[Quetz]

Lack of recent development has made me grow a bit tired of ichigo. New techniques or challenges would be cool, hoping ulquiorra can deliver...

[Aonsaithya]

Perhaps we will see some new character taking the lead role...
I can't see Ichigo ever beating Aizen. Hell, I can't see anyone ever beating Aizen, he seems to be untouchable. Ichigo's big time now is to defeat the 4th espada, which likely won't be an easy battle. The only character shown to have a lot of potential aside Ichigo (who has already reached bankai and vizard mask, yet is still not delivering) would be Kenpachi. He doesn't know the name of his sword, so he has basically his shikai's (well it's a constant release sword) special ability and bankai looming in the future, and already has a sickening reiatsu. I highly doubt we will ever see more than the name of his sword, but no bankai/mask/anything weird. Unless, say, Kenpachi hangs around Las Noches, finding the Hyogoku, then wonders what it is and touches it.

[Konkun]

I hope that the top 3 espadas won`t be beaten by any captain or all the "Ichigo reiatsu captain level super bankai ecc..."+"vaizard move and power" will be pointless...cause if he need all his vaizard power to beat Ulquiorra,the other captains can be only stronger than him in vizard mode to beat the top 3,but really strong as hell,so his power are going to be meaningless..

Don't forget, the Vaizards are coming to give Aizen a proper hello and thank you. Even if the captains lose to the top 3, teaming up with the Vaizards will give them an edge.

[kkck]

What if ichigo dies and goes to soul society to join gotei 13? I mean this as saying his human body would for some reason get destroyed.
It would be fun to see ichigo starting the shinigami academi learning kido and refining his swordmanship, shunpo (if he needs to improve it any further) and kido (ichigo is already arguably the best fighter in japan considering he is better than tatsuki who is the second so I dont think he should train in hand to hand combat). And later on become captain of an squad, hell he would be the youngest captain ever considering he is much younger than hitsugaya. Although this might not ever happen considering ichigo has hollow powers.

[shoe]

So, I was thinking about this earlier, and I think I figured out one of the main reasons why ichigo just seems boring and cliche as a protagonist, and it's that he doesn't have any sort of internal conflict driving his decisions.

Compared to some of the other characters in bleach, there is really nothing to motivate ichigo outside of the generic "omg, my friends are in trouble, I bettter drop everything and help them right away." that is typical of shonen manga.

Chad has his conflict of trying to uphold his promise to his grandfather
Ishida has to deal with his families bad history with the shinigami, and how he wants to help his (predominately) shinigami friends
Byakuya had to deal with the promise he made his wife and the promise he made his family
renji and rukia often have to decide between their duty as soul reapers and helping their friends
Orihime had to decide to "sacrifice" herself to save her friends

Ichigo on the other hand, has no sort of internal conflict, and this generally makes him boring and bland, as he has no real motivation for his decisions aside form shonen cliches. At least back before his vizard training he had to deal with his inner hollow, which often conflicted with and decided how he fought, but ever since he has subjugated his hollow he lost a lot of what little depth he had.