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Thread: Semifinal 2: Mihawk vs. Shanks

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    Semifinal 2: Mihawk vs. Shanks

    This thread wont have a poll until one day of discussion. This is to avoid one-liners and allow a bit more of discussion on each fight, as well to allow you to change your mind while discussing it. Thanks for your understanding.


    Semifinal 2

    MIHAWK VS. SHANKS



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    Re: Semifinal 2: Mihawk vs. Shanks

    What???Mihawk defeated dragon??? .well,it doesn't really matter,as I am sure shanks is above both of them. He is an emperor! He is no longer the one whom Mihawk could keep up with.

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    Re: Semifinal 2: Mihawk vs. Shanks

    Quote Originally Posted by mattiaildivino View Post
    What???Mihawk defeated dragon??? .well,it doesn't really matter,as I am sure shanks is above both of them. He is an emperor! He is no longer the one whom Mihawk could keep up with.
    If Mihawk couldn't keep up with Shanks anymore, he wouldn't still have the title of "The Strongest Swordsman."

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    Re: Semifinal 2: Mihawk vs. Shanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrs View Post
    If Mihawk couldn't keep up with Shanks anymore, he wouldn't still have the title of "The Strongest Swordsman."
    Implying that Shanks relies solely on swordmanship. Who knows, the sword might be supplementary, and his primary fighting style may be more akin to Luffy's freestyle.
    Mihawk may be better with a sword, but Shanks is probably better in other areas/overall.

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    Re: Semifinal 2: Mihawk vs. Shanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrs View Post
    If Mihawk couldn't keep up with Shanks anymore, he wouldn't still have the title of "The Strongest Swordsman."
    Well maybe he wouldn't have the title if he was willing to duel with Shanks. But who could blame him? If he fights Shanks and wins, he won against one armed man. If he loses, he lost against one armed man. That's probably a part of why he doesn't want to do it. Perhaps he feels he would have an unfair advantage. And perhaps he would have. But maybe Shanks can even it out with some other abilities. This is hard but given that we can only speculate about Shanks' abilities, strength, speed and fighting power and there's no example of how he was compared with anyone, I'd give it to Mihawk.

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    EDIT: Lol, just noticed Shanks' health bar is a little shorter
    Last edited by Razh; February 12, 2013 at 01:37 PM.

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    Re: Semifinal 2: Mihawk vs. Shanks

    I guess both are pretty good in swordsmanship, though Mihawk is better at it. Then again, Shanks has massive haki control, so he is no doubt better than Mihawk at that. I was going to go based on their positions but the Shichibukai are very complex they have very strong members like Kuma, Dofla and Mihawk, and yet weaker ones like Moria and Crocodile. But I guess we can not take the Shichi in that context, so I'll just go by instinct here and say that Shanks just overpowers Mihawk by a bit.

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    Re: Semifinal 2: Mihawk vs. Shanks

    Lulz... this again?

    I'll repeat my opinion and leave before the essays start up.

    Mihawk is the World's Greatest Swordsman. I take that to mean his swordsmanship is greater than anyone else in the world's, Shanks included. In a friendly fencing match, Mihawk would win.

    A real fight involves more than swordsmanship. If I'm swordfighting to the death against someone slightly better than I am, and also I have super powers, I think I'd be a favorite to win. Mihawk is the better swordsman. I don't think he's the better fighter.
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    Re: Semifinal 2: Mihawk vs. Shanks

    Shanks.

    He has a feat that Mihawk doesn't have showed, just for that he wins to me.

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    Re: Semifinal 2: Mihawk vs. Shanks

    It would be a great fight, but it's pretty clear that Shanks win this.

    IMO, Mihawk really shouldn't be that far in the tournament.
    A lot of way better fighter lost in previous round.


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    Re: Semifinal 2: Mihawk vs. Shanks

    Shanks at least clashed the sword with the world's strongest man ... However Mihawk was far away from reaching Whitebeared in the war ... busy with the commanders...

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    Re: Semifinal 2: Mihawk vs. Shanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja_Pirate View Post
    Shanks at least clashed the sword with the world's strongest man ... However Mihawk was far away from reaching Whitebeared in the war ... busy with the commanders...
    But Mihawk didn't have a bottle of booze with him. If he had it, I'm sure WB pirates would let him have a private audicence with WB.

    (Seriously man, what kind of reasoning is that? Completely different situaton. Shanks came to talk in peace.)

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    Re: Semifinal 2: Mihawk vs. Shanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Razh View Post
    But Mihawk didn't have a bottle of booze with him. If he had it, I'm sure WB pirates would let him have a private audicence with WB.

    (Seriously man, what kind of reasoning is that? Completely different situaton. Shanks came to talk in peace.)
    Whitebeard's crew didn't really want to meet with shanks, but if they didn't the red hair pirates would have forced their way in, they were prepared to go to war when they met up, and whitebeards crew couldn't really stop him because most of them got knocked out when shanks came aboard. Mihawks slash couldn't injure jozu, 3rd division commander, mihawk couldn't beat vista(their fight came out about even), 5th division commander, shanks was able to match whitebeard in phyisical strength, I give it to the emperor over the warlord

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    Re: Semifinal 2: Mihawk vs. Shanks

    I'm a little surprised. Usually by now, someone has started talking about what we've actually seen a character do. And we haven't seen Shanks actually fighting, so I'm shocked that the "we need to see them fighting" crowd isn't voting for Mihawk over Shanks.

    So... I guess I'll argue their point for them?

    Someone please describe how exactly Shanks wins against Mihawk? All their past battles were a draw. We haven't seen anything that Shanks can do, apart from using King's haki and Armament haki, neither of which affect Mihawk (Vista could use Armament haki, had no effect; Luffy and Shanks both used King's haki, had no effect). And Shanks is missing an arm. Although Whitebeard said it didn't decrease his battle power, he's still only got one arm, which could certainly make the difference in a very close fight. Also, we haven't actually seen him use Observation haki... which I would be surprised if he and Mihawk didn't both have it, but the "characters need to show things" camp hasn't pointed out.

    On the other hand, we can imagine other ways for Mihawk to win: for example, since he cut that huge frozen tsunami in an instant, he could slice up the ground beneath Shanks down to the lava. (In the event they both have to climb out, Mihawk wins because he has 2 arms to climb with, lol)

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    I don't particularly care about the fight, I'd just like to see people be consistent. It seems like people just pick a favorite, and try and dress up their vote with "reasoning" which they change on a whim if their favorite character lost the previous round (for example, Blackbeard vs. Enel).

    *shrug* Carry on.

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    Re: Semifinal 2: Mihawk vs. Shanks

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    I'm a little surprised. Usually by now, someone has started talking about what we've actually seen a character do. And we haven't seen Shanks actually fighting, so I'm shocked that the "we need to see them fighting" crowd isn't voting for Mihawk over Shanks.
    How should i say this. You can say the same thing in every thread, bring arguments ectera and still you always get a smack in the face from the reputition.

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    Re: Semifinal 2: Mihawk vs. Shanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Sachsenhesse View Post
    How should i say this. You can say the same thing in every thread, bring arguments ectera and still you always get a smack in the face from the reputition.
    Haha, but I can respect someone being consistent, even if I don't share his or her views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardMNixon View Post
    Lulz... this again?

    I'll repeat my opinion and leave before the essays start up.

    Mihawk is the World's Greatest Swordsman. I take that to mean his swordsmanship is greater than anyone else in the world's, Shanks included. In a friendly fencing match, Mihawk would win.

    A real fight involves more than swordsmanship. If I'm swordfighting to the death against someone slightly better than I am, and also I have super powers, I think I'd be a favorite to win. Mihawk is the better swordsman. I don't think he's the better fighter.
    The manga itself states the two of them were always tied, and had very intense fights (not "friendly fencing matches"). That was before Shanks lost an arm. So contrary to your opinion, the *manga* itself says neither was a better fighter than the other.

    About Shanks missing an arm? Whitebeard said his strength didn't decrease from it, but if Shanks and Mihawk's fights were always dead-even, then even with the same level of strength, just a slight difference of an arm could easily be the deciding factor.

    (And Shanks has super powers? Since when did he eat a devil fruit, haha. Both Shanks and Mihawk have haki. Who do you think taught it to Zoro?)

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    So basically, I see people vote for Shanks, simply because they like Shanks. And that's fine. But I've yet to see clear, manga-supported reasoning of how Shanks would actually beat Mihawk... which (like I mentioned before) surprises me!

    On just about every other match, there are people asking for one of the characters to "show something," but not on this one.

    Shanks: (1) blocked a magma punch, and (2) convinced Sengoku and Blackbeard to stop fighting with talk-no-jutsu. Neither of which are attacks. Neither of which can defeat Mihawk.

    So...............???

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