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As for Sanji, the very first hit he received, he had a crack already... That's really a very bad sign, if that fight lasted too long, I think Sanji would've lost
Now, the marines at large basically have to deal with all the yonko and at least at a superficial level in the new world keep them in check. How exactly would the marines do that if the vice admirals are overall weak? Luffy is strong but he is still not one of the top dogs, at best he is strong enough to survive in the new world without having to join a yonko. He still needs to grow a lot before he can become the pirate king in the end. The marines gathered their main assets at marineford for the war however would it have been wise for them to literally have everyone there? If they had done that the yonko would have taken the chance to take over a lot of places as the whole thing would imply the marines left the new world defenseless which makes no sense. In other words the marines necessarily have to have enough forces to fight WB and at least keep the yonko at bay in other places. Still, military power in OP depends on how many insanely strong individuals a group has meaning that among those who did not participate in the war there had to be quite a few people with actual power keeping the peace.
Now, taking all of that in consideration lets take a look at what the VAs not being all that implies. The main implication is that the only real asset the marines would have are the admirals to deal with any potential real threats. I don't see how the marines could possibly function if the VAs weren't a larger force than what we have seen even now (15 is a pretty large number but I would argue they need even more) and with more power than what we have seen.
There are enough big fish in the pond aka Dressrosa so i don't really care about Vergo tbh I'm curious to see Doflamingo's crew and to see Luffy stomping everyone in the end I know i'm evil but i hope someone will piss off Luffy really bad 'cause i wanna know a very serious time skip Luffy
That is why I think Kuzan said what he did, about this situation potentially being the most dangerous of Akainu's tenure. It's hard to tell how much he knows, but Kuzan seems to have surmised the situation could devolve into complete chaos. We know that if Law's plan succeeds, it really will.
I think that the Whitebeard situation was unique. Wiping out Roger's bloodline was all that mattered, the Government didn't care about the consequences. It might be that the other Yonkou were not held in check. There was no one to stop Shanks from showing up at Marineford. Kaido was the only one who tried.Quote:
If fight would continue without Sanjis leg getting cracked/ there would be rematch he would send Vergo flying with his kicks over and over and push him to use his bamboo stick. From then? We would get to see some new, strong moves form Sanji(blue diable jambe for anyone?) and his light speed.
(aaaaand Vergo has metal paramecia mark my words, sideburns on his face- just another hint)
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Wouldn't it be great if Dressrosa becomes Luffy's first territory? We have been told the island has been thrown into chaos/confusion (depending on translation) after Dofla's resignation. What if, over the course of defeating the Donquixote Pirates, the Strawhats help restore order, just like at Alabasta, Drum Island, or Fishman Island. But this being the New World, the new leaders form an alliance with Luffy, and ask to fly his Jolly Roger. With Doflamingo defeated, they would be looking for a new protector. Given what we know about how the New World works, any island without protection is fair game for riff-raff pirates like Brownbeard.
Luffy having his own territories sounds crazy ...i like it and Dressrosa as his 1st territory is awesome but that place we can say it's already taken by FI It's not official , meaning not everyone knows but we can already consider it as his 1st territory
Also i like for that to happen mainly 'cause that would be the biggest humiliation for DoFlamingo . His kingdom becoming the SH's territory, a rookie crew lol how evil can that be l
but it's clear that oda won't overlook vergo's situation. And I'm already foreseeing what will happen in the end of the saga: dd is defeated,but he will be killed by Moria. Vergo is sent to ID,but before that akainu punishes him by shooting a magma punch which destroys half part of his body notwithstanding the haki shield.
We also have to consider Luffy is now conspiring against a Yonkou. There's a strong possibility that by the end of the saga, Luffy takes Kaido's place. It would make sense if, over the course of the arc, the Strawhats acquire allied territories. We know allied territories are a requirement for being considered a Yonkou. That could also explain the presence of Kinemon, why Oda chose to formally introduce a living Samurai this arc. Over the course of the saga Luffy could befriend Wano Kuni. An alliance with the Samurai would go a long towards earning consideration for Yonkou status. Luffy already has an allied crew, the Heart Pirates. At some point Jinbe and the Sun Pirates also will ally with the Strawhats. That fulfills the other major requirement.
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Also weighing on the Kuzan being a member of the revolutionaries; I don't think this is the case. From what Dofla had said and what he later said himself, I'm believing he's a man on a solo mission, what the ultimate goal of this mission is, we don't know yet. We do know now that since his leaving, he has discovered a number of things regarding the World Government that he would never have known had he still been there and has a different perspective looking from the outside in.
seat' Buffalo was speaking about before was the seat of King.
Also I'm not sure it is possible to claim a territory at this stage when Yonkou are still supposed to be the ones in charge
It seems to me that over the last two years, Kuzan has learned what the audience already knows. I think whatever lead him to the Marine still guides his action. I liked his line, after Smoker asks about his underworld connections. "I'm still me". I think that Kuzan means his sense of justice is still intact, Smoker might not like the course his life has taken, but it's merely a means to an end. It does seem that whatever he is doing, Kuzan is working alone. Dofla's statement would not have otherwise made sense.Quote:
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Those are exactly the questions I have: how does Dressrosa choose a king, and how did Dofla come to power. goldb raised another good question: what is the disposition of the population? Those three points will probably determine the outcome of the arc, and the status of Dressrosa after Doflamingo is defeated.
I say Luffy because I believe this saga is building towards Luffy becoming a Yonkou. He will need territory to earn that status. Building alliances, by accident, over the course of the saga is the most expedient way for Luffy to gain allies while still remaining within the plot. He may gain more allies later, but that would be a workable start. Luffy sweeping onto an (sometimes hostile) island, earning their trust and respect, is something of an OP trope.
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