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wow! this fight has finally ended,and it's been barely won by the strongest man on earth!
How the hell did Roger not end up in the finals? Shanks got scarred by Blackbeard. He got an arm bit off by a Sea King. Even Mihawk thinks Shanks is not on his level of swordmanship. Yup, this is definitely a popularity contest.
Like I stated...BB is 1-0 vs Shanks and even stronger now also.
BB didn't want to fight Shanks at that time, because it wasn't going to be beneficial to him.
Remember that Shanks was the one who told WB that Ace should be careful.
And what are you talking about he hadn't got that power yet? The arm losing incident was the first time we actually saw Haki in play from the very beginning of the manga.
And just because he's an Emperor doesn't make him stronger than BB. BB is also an emperor. Being emperor means he is leader of 1 OF THE 4 strongest crews in the new world. Remember that. He is 1 of 4. Dragon has the highest bounty, and numerous others don't care about that title.
How do you ignore the fact that Mihawk, 1 of 7 Shichibukai...doesn't even respect Shanks swordsmanship enough to consider him worthy of sparring with.
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"What is stated" in a manga is a lot of time hyperbole. But we know Mihawk does not have the same respect for Shank's fighting ability as he does for Whitebeard.
If we should go by "what is stated"...there is no higher honor in the Manga than title of Pirate King.
Pirate King vs an Emperor (1 of 4)....hmmmm, that's a tough one.
Well, since we know Shanks from the beginning...and have never seen Roger fight...that should make Shanks stronger then.
Lets get something straight here...we don't even know if Shanks is even stronger than Silvers Rayleigh.
i mostly agree with mickdawgx81. I haven't seen Shanks going all out so far, have you? As for Mihawk, i don't think he doesn't take shanks serious. I think they are old rivals /friends (Mihawk going to Shanks letting him know about Luffy - that he even knew about Luffy & Shanks is a hint for a deeper relationship. Or when he left the battlefield after Shanks arrived he stated that he agreed to fight WB, not Shanks).
As for BB - he was able do wound Shanks, before he got his ability. He was able to defeat Ace, without WB ability. Now he has his ability, the earthquake power (which he could use to "destroy the world, according to the "Great buddha") for two years and who knows what other abilities he already collected (Jinbey stated that they are hunting for strong DFs and BB is the only one i know about who could use more than one DF power). I think BB is right now the strongest of the yonkou.
As for Shanks: i think he is one of the strongest, but i agree with mickdawgx81 that Roger would be the one to fight WB, not Shanks. Shanks wanted to stop WB back when they met. They clashed swords with each other and i don't think that Shanks won. Maybe he had a draw. A draw against an aging WB, who was the only real rival of Roger, the pirate king (as i know so far). So i just don't see Shanks on a levl with Roger or WB back in their "prime time".
As for Shanks stopping aikanu: When shanks arrived, aikanu already fought Wb, Jimbey, Marco,......and he was just stopped, not defeated. And aikanu was stopped by marco and that swordman of WB crew, too. I doubt BB fled because he thought he had no chances of winning - the loss would have been too great (going thre w all the trouble collecting his crew and maybe loosing them fighting someone that strong - goes for both Shanks & crew & aikanu)
you're right. But adding the power BB gained so far (and i am only talking about the ones that have been shown so far) he know has the earthquake powers, an incredibly strong ability + the darkness thing - both powers Blackbeard couldn't use in the fight between him and Shank and he still managed to scar him (something even Mihawk wasn't able to - and according to WB, they fought each other a view times). It's not proven, but the chances that Shanks is loosing are in my opinion higher than his chances of winning (even if Shanks has got a devil fruit by now, BB could take his powers away like he did with Ace.). And he is now holding the power to destroy the world^^
You do know that has nothing to do with this thread, right? Blackbeard lost in the last round, so...
wasn't that the discusision since the second post of page 6? How the hell shanks ended up in the finals (or something like that). You even responded to that (2 times). But you are right, i suppose this is off topic.