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Translations: Bleach 600 (2)
the fullbring was due, to having hollow reiatsu taint his mother while she was pregnant. and as far as we know, fullbring takes place not in spirit form, but in human form. It allowed him to manifest hollow like power in the real world not in shinigmai/hollow form but in a flesh body.
that is a primary difference between hollow powers and fullbring. Fullbring happens in the real world, and the hollow mask is something that he has to be in spirit form to do.
now it will be interesting to see how the fullbringers ganju and gang, operate now that they are souls in SS. but they got their powers while human so i guess it will be about the same as we saw in the human world with a few new tricks now that they are in reishi abundant SS.
Still like Darkbankai said the holy form she was learning and Old geezer Ishida disapproves of can be the absorption ability. This might explain how she beat that thing.
as for the maskai and hollow reishi- the reiatsu she got exposed to during this battle, will effect ichigo- http://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/433/13
yes yes- before they were born parents were attacked- good point.
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And not not really. Ouetsu said that there was no shinigami. So he also is included in his words. He knew that there is an inner spirit and its have power and all and he found a way to use that power. The namga gives us no indication that he created his Zan before he createt Asauchi
As per this page- ever since the beginning of soul society not even one shinigami was able to awaken their zanpaktou without one of his asauchi-
Upon reflection - I am willing to concede that even nimaya needed to use one of his asauchi to awaken his zanpaktou-
However, this would leave two alternatives for ichigo-
1. that he made his own asauchi to awaken his zanpaktou and that it is now broken into pieces. - which would mean he needs to make another one.
If he made his own asauchi, using the stupid looking blade he had when he took rukias powers, the one that had the traditional hilt before he learned zangetsus name, then it would fulfill the requirement of using an asauchi, to awaken his own shinigami spirit, and he did fight with it, until he nearly died, and then urahara saved him and put him in the shattered shaft. so it all kinda fits. even if ichigo didnt make the asauchi, perhaps the hyogoku helped a bit on that part, which may explain why rukia didnt transfer part of her power, the Hyogoku used all her power.
2. that he was able to awaken his zanpaktou without an asauchi altogether- perhaps due to his powers being awakend both by rukia and the hyogoku within her when she transferred her power to him. - if the second option is how, then for ichigo to regain power, would he need to find his soul and recreate that moment with rukia, only instead of using her blade to pierce his soul, I wonder if he needs to use one of nimayas asauchi.
He fought each one. striking back instinctively as seen here-
so if he gets back to nimaya after this flashback arc, gets another shot at the asauchi- will he then realize he cannot strike back? will ichigo decide that its his turn to take the hits for zangetsu, to do for zangetsu what zangetsu did for him? to awaken zangetsu who only wanted to protect ichigo- will ichigo then have to draw zangetsu back from oblivion and allow the asauchi to impale his very soul? -- Nimaya said that asauchi were the strongest able to become anything. In ichigos case so far that was prevented because he fought the asauchi, he didnt allow them into his soul. so he kept the asauchi from his spirit. If he lets one in, according to nimaya it can become anything, even zangetsu.
will this happen? I dont know- but it will be interesting to find out.
Last edited by DarkBankai; March 22, 2013 at 09:08 PM.
She absorbed it and its soul manifested as Ichigo's hollow when he was born. Calling it now. The similarity can't be a coincidence. Could quite possibly be the secret to his insane reatsu. Basically his parents are Shinigami, Quincy, and Hollow.
My other thought is that Quincy abilities are similar to Full bringer, as we've seen Ishida use items to boost his power, they just have a much stronger control over reatsu.
On Hollow vs. Fullbring...
Ginjou gives the Hollow attack on his mother as the reason for having Hollow powers, true Hollow powers that allowed him to use Cero. So going by this, it does seem that Ichigo's Fullbring and Hollow power could have originated from the same source. It's weird that Ginjou's Hollow powers look nothing like anything we've seen before him though. No Vaizard mask, just the eyes, white hair, and facial markings. Also it seemed to be an actual part of his Bankai, which oddly enough he performed without even having a Zanpakuto, unless his Fullbring was his Zanpakuto, but does that make sense? Weird that a guy who, just like Ichigo, was a substitute Shinigami, who possibly never had an Asauchi either, and also was a Fullbringer with a Bankai and Hollow powers should just come and then get killed and that's it. I'm sure he'll make an appearance in this arc, but there's so much mystery around him that I hope there's an explanation.
But then I happened on this page
Where Ryuuken's talking about Ginjou's residual reiatsu from where he cut Ishida. He evidently can't see any traces of anything resembling Hollow power in it, which raises the question of just how close to Hollow power Fullbring even is. Hmmm....
I've said it before and will say it again Fulbringers and Quincy are 2 sides to the same coin
Quincy are not that limited and simply use artifacts to channel their absorbed power with, they are hardly the same. Also losing the object they have little or no chance to recover their power. A Fullbringer will be handicapped. Due to her ability and the similarity with hachi , Orihime could recover it herself but thats about it.
Another thing that is now far more interesting is that both Ichigo and Ginjo had the ability to absorb power. Thus i say both possibly have a quincy parent.
We have seen Quincy use items to channel their power right? I don't see it any differently. The glove and the star shaped talisman he uses are all similar to full bring. Also how Ginjo absorbed Ichigo's fullbring is similar to the absorption that the Quincy use. So ya seems like fullbring are at least a cousin to the Quincy in terms of how they function.