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    Re: Bleach 530 Spoilers Discussion

    Be pretty twisted if Ichigo wasn't either Masaki or Isshin's and he's really just some odd hollow/arrancar that became a human child because of something Masaki did to him.

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    Re: Bleach 530 Spoilers Discussion

    Masaki and Ryuken are siblings? This is interesting, I didn't see that coming due to them having different surnames. I thought they might be cousins though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee.J.Baxter View Post
    Not necessarily,

    Ryuken's last name may be taken from his wife (the one whom Uryu was born to), similar to how Ishinn's was.
    Ryuken's father's surname is Ishida too.

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    Re: Bleach 530 Spoilers Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Miyagi View Post
    Masaki and Ryuken are siblings? This is interesting, I didn't see that coming due to them having different surnames. I thought they might be cousins though.



    Ryuken's father's surname is Ishida too.
    Good point!...But then again, was it ever stated that he's Ryuken's father (sorry, I forgot his name)? As I recall, it was only stated that he's Uryu's Grandfather, which could make him Ryuken's father-in-law, rather than his father...
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    • Just as Quincies are evolved beings born from Humans, Shinigami are evolved beings born from Hollows.
    • Once Yhwach dies, Ichigo's Quincy powers will disappear and his soul will become unstable, causing the onset of Soul Suicide.
    • Yhwach isn't going to be the final antagonist.

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    Re: Bleach 530 Spoilers Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee.J.Baxter View Post
    Good point!...But then again, was it ever stated that he's Ryuken's father (sorry, I forgot his name)? As I recall, it was only stated that he's Uryu's Grandfather, which could make him Ryuken's father-in-law, rather than his father...
    Souken (=
    Well, I kind of expected this siblings revelation. Like I said at some point, Ryuken seemed to be accepting Isshin to the family when he called him Kurosaki or sort of like that. It was my initial interpretation.

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    Re: Bleach 530 Spoilers Discussion

    Kubo is traveling to Germany? This can only mean one thing: explaining the backstory of quincys further and using german words (inflecting them wrongly) for fancy new quincy attacks. Maybe we see some german/european architecture?

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    Re: Bleach 530 Spoilers Discussion

    If the spoiler is true, then my guesses (as well as of some of you) were right.
    I always thought that between Ryuuken and Misaki there was a relationship, otherwise I don't know how Isshin could have known him.
    Anyway what's more intriguing is the Arrancar; obviously if all this spoiler is true.

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    Re: Bleach 530 Spoilers Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by TheWanderer View Post
    Be pretty twisted if Ichigo wasn't either Masaki or Isshin's and he's really just some odd hollow/arrancar that became a human child because of something Masaki did to him.
    I doubt this is the case, as Ichigo resembles the Shiba clan, is also a Quincy, and has orange hair like Masaki; this suggests to me that Ichigo is indeed the son of Masaki and Ishinn. However, I believe it is still possible that the Hollow that's mentioned in the spoiler was somehow thrown into the mix!

    I'm interested to know how the FullBring come into all of this; perhaps the Hollow that's been mentioned isn't a normal Hollow nor an Arrancar, but a FullBring that's gone out of control (possibly as a result of Aizen's experimentation).
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    • Just as Quincies are evolved beings born from Humans, Shinigami are evolved beings born from Hollows.
    • Once Yhwach dies, Ichigo's Quincy powers will disappear and his soul will become unstable, causing the onset of Soul Suicide.
    • Yhwach isn't going to be the final antagonist.

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    Re: Bleach 530 Spoilers Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by TheWanderer View Post
    Be pretty twisted if Ichigo wasn't either Masaki or Isshin's and he's really just some odd hollow/arrancar that became a human child because of something Masaki did to him.
    That could be a possibility except for the fact that ichigo looks like kaien and so shiba kaien was probably related to shiba isshin or it could have been a mere coincidence..

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    Re: Bleach 530 Discussion / 531 Predictions

    Hm. So maybe that Hollow (who simply HAS to be a Vasto Lord) attacked Masaki, and that's the reason why Ichigo has his Hollow side looking like that, and that's also the reason he's able to use Fullbring.

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    Re: Bleach 530 Discussion / 531 Predictions

    Is Masaki's Aunt the fullbringer Jackie? Wow that's some alikeness.

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    Re: Bleach 530 Discussion / 531 Predictions

    That hollow resembles Ichigo's second hollow form a lot.
    Also, not quite a love triangle, but some guesses were almost right about that: Masaki was supposed to marry Ryuken. I wonder how Ryuken took Masaki's action when she married Isshin instead.

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    Re: Bleach 530 Discussion / 531 Predictions

    So... Ichigo-like Hollow... Colour me intrigued. I knew that Masaki had to be related to the Ishida's somehow... didn't expect the whole arranged marriage, thing, though.

    I always thought Isshin and Masaki smelled like Romeo and Juliet, and it just keeps getting more and more similar.

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    Re: Bleach 530 Spoilers Discussion

    I sincerely hope to see Ginjo in this flashback.

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    Re: Bleach 530 Discussion / 531 Predictions

    Rain = rain in ichigos inner world , the hollow = ichigos hollow form , and the hollow "arms" looks alot like ichigos bankai

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    Re: Bleach 530 Discussion / 531 Predictions

    So Masaki was taken in , so she could marry Ishida, Well Kinda OK chapter and Bleach is on a break next week

    ---------- Post added at 01:53 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:51 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Miyagi View Post
    Masaki and Ryuken are siblings? This is interesting, I didn't see that coming due to them having different surnames. I thought they might be cousins though.
    Well they are not siblings as she was taken in to the family, wasnt a member of it

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