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Translations: Gintama 506 (2)
The way that fight whent its exacly the same way it did when it was on panel. Orochimaru sitting there having a good time as Kabuto was fighting Tsunade. I asure you she was not ignoring Kabuto and running after Oro when Kabuto was in the way as that would make her end up dead.
There is no logical way for her to attack the both of them when that would make her moronic. If 1 of them is not attacking you then forcing a 2vs1 when you can 1vs1 and then 1vs1 is stupid. She is NOT that stupid. Orochimaru just moved back with Kabuto to the designated area and then Kabuto had his fight.
That was the point. The fight was like it was when we finaly got it on panel. She did whant the both of them DEAD but considering Oro was holding back and Kabuto was direcly attacking her she was dealing with Kabuto first. This is exacly what happened when it was ON panel.
Hell even asuming she wasted... What? 30% of her chakra on Orochimaru (makes no sense but fine) she is a SENJU with insane chakra capacity and stamina. For her to go close to out of chakra punching the air chasing Kabuto is a horible feat. Both in skill and in the brains departement. If Kabuto can do that then Minato is going to drink coffe as he is dodging her.
When he saved baby Naruto, when he saved Kushina as Kurama's paw was coming down. Its not flat out on scren stated its shunshin but its just about obvious.
Then remember in that cave with Bee when Naruto just got Kurama's chakra and he used shunshin no jutsu on Kisame? Bee compared him to a "flash" (aka Minato) and Yamato added that he is still not on Minato's shunshin no jutsu speed even still.
Then Yamato added here:
Same thing for Hanzo when he had to run from Nagato's soul removing Dragon or when Raikage charged at Naruto, Sasuke, Minato at full speed. Those are all shunshin no jutsus. Real fast movement its not base speed, even for Minato. Its all shunshin.
Last edited by xXan; March 28, 2013 at 09:57 AM.
I seriously doubt Yamato meant that Naruto was slower than Minato's basic Shunshin Jutsu. He most likely meant Minato's Hiraishin since it's what he's famous for. I still think him saving baby Naruto was just super speed. That said, it's still hard to believe that a speed freak like him doesn't have basic Shunshin no Jutsu. Guess I'll leave it at that...
Nop, he was refering to Shunshin no jutsu as he himself said that. I asure you Yamato and Bee know the diference between this 2 jutsus. What he refered by "not as good" was the fact that Naruto could not control the speed and got stuck in the wall lol.
When did he say it was a Shunshin Jutsu ? Bee simply though it was. He was wrong. As it was proven to be just speed. Nothing about Minato's Shunshin was said.
Immeasurable speed? No. Unless you can provide actual proof from the manga of that, that's just a load.
Yes its shunshin. Raikage charging does the same thing as stated by Shi (Raikage vs Sasuke).
Bee was not wrong, it was put like "?" because he had a hard time seeing Naruto, Yamato confirmed it was just that and compared him to Minato.
With what? Her snail level speed? If Raikage can take him by surprise and get to 1cm of his face BUT HE CAN'T HIT HIM what change in bloody hell would Tsunade have to do it? ITS IRRELEVANT if she can take him by surprise OR NOT.Quote:
Also you are wrong, he figured out the intangibility/tangibility after the chains event:
The first 1 was not enough... Tsunade can just HEAL. She does not START WITH REGEN ON... SHE NEEDS TO ACTIVATE IT... She also needs HANDSEALS...
lol... Because Gamabunta is going to sit there allowing them to get on his back? Are you joking or something? The slug would go into small parts in front of itself and then Gamabunta blasts the area with water balls that can repel something of a bijudama (something diferent but like it) or use that sword... Yes it is ridiculous but on your part.Quote:
Yep and that is why Biju's have such low durability. "facepalm" to say the least. Biju's had greater durability then a stupid human.Quote:
If you can chop a biju you can chop a human. Biju's themselfs are not just CHAKRA... Its chakra transformed into FLESH, BLOOD, BONES... Why do you think they can BLEED... They even have fur and what not.
Choping a tentacle that can hold KURAMA even if for a few seconds (to the point it chops them off) is more then enough to asume it can chop a human in HALF.
When the hell did Kabuto did that? WTH? I hope you don't mean SM Kabuto? If you are refering to him and the 2 Uchiha then that is lol.... Kabuto in SM has those senses... Same senses that allowed Naruto to dodge full speed old Raikage from POINT BLANK RANGE...Quote:
Oh please provide the links as i have no clue what you are talking about.Quote:
Oh and you do understand what you are doing is to show me how Kabuto>Madara in speed... She can't land 1 blow on Kabuto but she can fight Madara who can keep up with CM Naruto... Right, right.
Why the hell would he bother outspeeding him when he has an easy sure way to win it?Quote:
His speed does matter as he would not be able to land blows on shit if he did not have speed to counter and attack.
Kabuto close what distance of what? I don't get what you are refering to. Elaborate on your last sentence.
I have Naruto punching Kisame faster then all the people there knowing wtf happened and Yamato direcly comparing him to Minato and stating he is still not as good... Now this is a CLEAR feat for Minato's shunshin...Quote:
You see your problem comse form the fact that Minato had his fight vs:
Raikage and Obito. Those 2 are not people you can win over with shunshin... Of course he is not going to overpower them with shunshin...
Oh and Minato's odds of going for the head are huge. We have him doing a few attacks and in most of them he goes for the head... We have.
Going for the back for Obito and Raikage and HEAD for Obito (2x times) and Bee (1x time). Yeah that is enough for me to say he has 60-70% chanse of going for the head. He also whent for the neck on that ninja in the forest when he saved Kakashi.
Yes because punching the ground automaticly does damage right? You can't jump over it or evade it right? Its not like Kabuto could do this EAST right? Its not like no arms Orochimaru could do it easy RIGHT? Please STOP WITH THE BS.. Please show me her smashing the ground and anybody losing his footing or whatever... SHE IS SLOW AS CREP. The only one who even got hit by this was NARUTO as a bloody genin moron in part 1. Aside for that Oro and Kabuto where jumping out of the area with 0 dificulties.Quote:
Also warping Minato or grabing him does not stop his ability to ST... If Tobi would have dumped him in his dimension would so i don't see the logic of the first part of your post? Again how would grabing him stop his ability to teleport?
She did like Danzo to the heart still not relevant as she could not fight. She only could sit as a shield in front of Naruto to the point she activated her regen. I am sure that Minato is going to SIT THERE and allow her to form her seals to activate her regen once he hit her once. Do you think he is some time of a MORON? Its irrelevant what he goes for first... Having Minato on your arse after he did some good damage to you its not going to allow you the time to pull handseals expecialy for a snail like Tsunade. If this was Itachi with his handspeed yeah but TSUNADE? lol no...Quote:
Her slugs are NOT immune to damage... The hell? Seriously WTF? What not the slug is Superman (even he is not immune)? They could take physical damage from falling buildings but that does not make them immune to even that type of damage... It just means they have hight endurance to that. FIRE for instance could burn them completly. Yes Minato does not have fire but just stating... Immune to damage just made my day lol. Those crep can take blunt damage but a sword that can cut its going to cut them right up. Sasuke using chidori spear is going to chop them off... The fact that they can take a blunt force from a falling wall (or whatever) does not make them immune to damage... Even presure and it kills the crep. The worm had to split itself when it was grabed by Manda or die...
Flood the battlefield in acit... Now i am sitting here wandering when you are going to stop inventing abilities for this stupid worm... It can spit acit true but flooding the battlefield... WTF? The huge summon (when its not made into small pieces) can spit a good amouth of it but when small its going to have tiny "spits"...
This is like stating "if i can cut trough steel i am not going to be able to cut trough a human". Whatever you say...Quote:
Find a human put a kinfe(big enough to actualy hit the brain) in his head and see how well he performs after.Quote:
1- he does have Hirashin. 2 he has clones 3 he does have enough speed to avoid anything from her. Kabuto could.Quote:
Army of slugs doing shit.... HHAHAHA show me then fighting. Go RIGHT AHEAD show me the feats that "army" of crep slugs have. Please do.
NEVER, EVER has he attacked in a way that allowed the enemy to hit him back. NEVER.Quote:
His attacks sure are straightforward.. Yeah its not like he made a joke out of Bee and Raikage and completly owned Tobi with his tricks... Not he also has clones... This man is a great tactician fighting someone with the IQ of a rat.
As i said, any people with basic grasp of combat its not going to leave himself open to a counter even if he knows he is going to HIT the opponent. Minato is going to strike and quicly move out of the way and reposition. NOBODY dies instantly unless you hit the brain. Take Danzo he got a busted hearth but still could go on... MINATO IS NOT A BLOODY RETARD.
Last edited by xXan; March 29, 2013 at 02:33 AM.
Here he used Shunshin no jutsu to save Kakashi:
Pointed this earlier. The guf of smoke was a traditional way of depicting shunshin in part 1. Kakashi made it a good number of time when using shunshin.
Here its even stated:
Perhaps she just confused his Hirashin to Shunshin but i don't see how she can do that... She could be refering to Minato saving Kakashi and not the attack on that dude. At the very least this confirms he has shunshin as i am sure his students would know if he had or not.
Last edited by xXan; March 29, 2013 at 03:13 AM.
And how am I wrong? I never said he didn't figure out Obito's ability, just that he originally got caught off guard by no knowing it's mechanics. And there's nothing to prevent Tsunade from activating her regeneration.
She caught Madara off guard and nearly hit him and she was fast enough to jump in front of Madara's attack to protect the others.
My claim has always been that she'll be able to catch Minato off guard and land a blow, which is quite different from that.
And against Obito, he went for the body three times, so the odds aren't that great when thrown in with everything else.
Of course they do. Otherwise Obnito's actions would make no sense, nor would Minato's need to be evasive. Grabbing him would mean being in contact with him, meaning they would be taken along with him.
Pretty sure they are, considering they had an entire village fall on them and showed similar healing abilities as Tsunade. And exactly what "other" type of damage are they gonna face here? For this battle, they basically are immune to damage. And thousands of slugs positioned all around the battlefield shooting acid would basically be flooding the field. It may not be a literally flood, but it would in the sense that it'll cover the area.
happen, especially in a world where two people can survive a direct stab through the heart.
I'm afraid it is: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-58427-1...apter-515.html (Obitos words, center panel)Quote:
The brain can just as well serve the role of a steering wheel. If the steering gets damaged, the car won't function properly, but once it gets repaired everythings fine again.
Never said they are immune, just that the memories aren't irreversibly lost if the brain suffers injury and heals back again. Otherwise Deidara must have returned as a blank slate, since there was no backup of his soul done before.Quote: