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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
But is that enough for itachi to betray his clan and his parents? Just because he was traumatized in war? Is that it? Honestly, it doesn't make any sense for me. Why would itachi killed his clansmen who was fighting for their freedom/equal rights/mistreatment? Does being in a trauma is enough to kill your entire clan? I don't think so.
So there must be something worse with the uchiha's coup/plan/goal that made itachi and shisui betrayed them.
1. Itachi loathed strife and war.
2. He was a pacifist.
3. He strongly believed in self sacrifice and the needs of many outweighing the needs of a few.
4. He was basically blackmailed by Danzou.
It was a combination of all these factors.
"A man who refused fetters and familial ties interfere with his love for the village. The village leaders noted this and used it against him."
A pacifist is someone who will avoid conflict at all cost, even if it means he gets harmed. He won't strike back because he believes its not worth the strife. Those views made him disagree with the choices his clan has made, and thus in his eyes they where the wrongdoers. Danzou blackmailing him was the icing on the cake which sealed the deal.
Last edited by LnDRash; March 31, 2013 at 08:56 PM.
I honestly don't think Itachi was a pacifist int he traditional sense, he was still very open to killing people. It was just that he used a very stern logic in the fact that the needs of the many outweighed the needs of the few.
He hated war and the massive loss of life that brought on. Meaning he would kill a few people (his clansmen) if it meant war would not be brought on the world.
Exactly. Itachi never agreed on the uchiha's views/plan/coup. His mindset is entirely different from his clansmen. Well, maybe you're right about those factors, except for the number 3, I guess, but don't you think that the uchiha's view itself is one of the factors why they're being annihilated? Itachi keeps on mentioning their so called foolish idea of their coup, so definitely their something wrong with them or their plan in a sense that itachi doesn't have any choice but to kill them.
Last edited by suraj5898; March 31, 2013 at 11:48 PM.
Although its kind of annoying to decipher all those posting to deduce what people really meant to say. If I had a stick up my ass I'd actually start complaining
Danzou said "Either assassinate your clan and take the blame on you so that we keep a clean vest" or "We will kill you, your brother and your whole clan".
Sounds like blackmailing to me, although Danzou obviously tried to sugarcoat it after Itachi asked if thats supposed to be a threat.
Blackmailing means to put someone into a situation in which he's left without true choice and the only acceptable pick is what the blackmailer wants that person to do. Thats pretty much exactly what Danzou did.
And the fact that the decision lies with itachi himself. He either help his clan or be killed together with his clan. That's the consequences of uchiha's coup.
I like Itachi as much as the next guy, but I'm seriously tired of people claiming he was somehow superior to all Uchiha when it came to dealing with loss and despair. Losing the Uchiha didn't make him go crazy because he didn't care about the Uchiha. He despised them.
Had Sasuke been killed by Danzou Itachi would've turned Konoha into a black smudge while also killing everyone in the way of his vengeance.
Sure, Sasuke was more importat to him then the whole clan and if Danzou would have touched him then he would have turned on the village. But only because Sasuke was the most important to him doesn't mean he despised all his other clan mates. At least its more then evident the act of murdering his parents was causing him to go through immense suffering.
Now, if that makes him superior in terms of dealing with loss in comparison to all other Uchiha? That much I really don't know, since we've barely seen anything from them except for the Uchiha main cast. What I do know though is that what Itachi had to go through would have turned nearly every other character we know of (regardless of heritage) into a psycho.