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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
That was never confirmed. Kirin needs thunder clouds so that it works yet it was bright and sunny when sasuke was going to use "that jutsu" also if there are no thunder clouds sasuke would make some by firing Katon jutsu's into the sky like he did against Itachi but again never did so before using "that jutsu"
kishi didn't bring the subject of "that jutsu" right before naruto went to killer Bee. He brought it up hundreds of chapters earlier right after the time-skip which is why it is likely he had forgotten or more logically just decided to scrap up the possibility. Like many have said it is extremely unlikely naruto still has a trump card up his sleeve because he's been on the brink of death countless times where a trump card could have been used. It is not the first time an author abandons or forgets. It's happened before in other long running manga series as well.
The reason that frist half of manga made sence was because he planned it after that he thought of the stroy as on the fly ... its obvious ... there are so many discrepancies it is getting ridiculous ... so at this point there is no THAT JUTSU imo
Last edited by Murdock; April 16, 2013 at 09:05 AM.
Kirin isn't a Jutsu that requires the sort of thunderclouds we saw at the end of Sasuke vs Itachi. The heating up of the atmosphere through amaterasu & fire balls through the sky were just a bonuses not necessity but bonuses that would greatly strengthen the power & range of the justsu. Besides, Sasuke can shot fireballs at the sky at anytime he pleased (not that he needed to).
Now on with the other point. Remember I said you shouldn't base things on memory? You have the facts, search for it & then apply it to your statements.
Kishi DID bring up the subject to our attention right before Naruto travalled to train with Killerbee. It's a manga fact. It's merely a jutsu that needed the perfecting of Kurama & Naruto only learned that recently. Jiraiya had put specific restriction on him in regards to using that jutsu which is why Naruto wouldn't use it duh.
Here, how about we let the toad who oftenly visited Naruto & Jiraiya during the time skip to tell you how it is http://www.mangastream.to/naruto-cha...9-page-16.html or http://www.mangareader.net/93-49862-...apter-489.html or http://www.mangapanda.com/93-49862-1...apter-489.html
Last edited by Kay3795; April 16, 2013 at 06:23 AM.
Look at the walls after the explosion, they are burned. The only logical conclusion is he used a Katon to blast open the roof of the hideout, just like here:
Here he raises his hand to launch the jutsu:
Compare the pose:
Imho it couldn't be anything else.
In the anime it even started raining mere moments after Orochimaru & Co left... I actually thought it happened in the manga as well, but when I checked I was surprised it didn't x_X
The jutsu Sasuke would have used on his old teammates isn't confirmed either. It's just assumed he was going to use kirin because the hand motion was the same as when he used it against Itachi.
However saying that Kirin is "that jutsu" is still not confirmed. The manga panels you posted did not suggest it was possible the way you claim it is. I am however leaning more towards the idea that it is in fact Kirin but there is still no confirmation and that remains a fact.
PS, I'd also like to suggest that you calm your titts ...
It is very possible however still not confirmed. And it very well could be something else but I am kinda leaning towards the possibility that it is Kirin but will not know unless I see some sort of confirmation in the manga.
Last edited by Jabman; April 16, 2013 at 08:55 AM.
Kishi was simply trying to show that the hole is flooded with light and Naruto and co are in the dark. He did something similiar here: http://www.mangapanda.com/93-311-5/n...apter-306.html
Why would he draw light black and darkness white? Makes zero sense to me.
Even in the link you've posted it looks like a mix of shadows and scorched rock to me.
Could you link the chapter/page where it is revealed that the "jutsu" requires mastery over the Kyuubi? I can't recall this 'fact' at all.
Just a fun fact, but if you look at this page in retrospect (http://www.mangastream.to/naruto-cha...9-page-14.html) the frog is clearly talking about Killer B. It even states that the "vision is cloudy" which is clearly linked to Kumogakure, with it being the Hidden Cloud Village.
Last edited by Azuma; April 16, 2013 at 02:06 PM.
I am of the idea that "that jutsu" was simply the kyubi's power. Naruto never really displayed anything else and considering how dangerous it was at the time it makes perfect sense.
Doesn't that take place even hundreds of chapter after bee and kumo were introduced? I would argue at the time it was quite obvious the sage toad was talking about B.
Edit: Just checked, its not hundreds of chapters but almost 2 years worth of them.
Well Gerotora did say to Naruto that controlling Kurama's chakra was the key to that Jutsu. Meaning that it's a real Jutsu. Kinda makes me wonder why exactly we haven't heard anything about it recently. Maybe Naruto needs to be remembered of it.
Maybe Minato brings him that.