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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxy Barnard View Post
    Why? Why did we all decide bottom 5 is all that counts as low. In a magazine of 20ish titles, 10 still isn't great, more so once you consider the spaced placement of colour-enhanced chapters.
    If I had to guess, it's probably because 5 is a cooler number than 10.
    Also because it seems to be easier to work out a bottom 5 in your head than a bottom 10, seeing as the range isn't as large. Whether it's a more legitimate way of looking at things or not, like you questioned, is certainly something to think about.
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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

    The point is, a series ranked from 10 onward will survive, unless it's ranked in the bottom 3 or 5. Which is why people focus on that. Everyone wants to see their favorite series safe and hence discussions usually revolve around the bottom 5.

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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

    It feels like the only series no one really talks about are the ones whose popularities are acknowledged in the mindsets of the vast majority of readers, fans or not, such as One Piece and Soma... apart from some debates about whether Toriko and AC really deserve their popularites.

    For series that have shown even the slightest bit of vulnerability, whether a middler like Beelzebub, Haikyu, Gintama, Nisekoi and of course, World Trigger, or the near-endless list of absolute bombs, there's always going to be talk about how long the series will last, what might happen to the storyline, and what might happen to its popularity in the long run. It's always a lot of fun to predict these kinds of things. However, I'd say moreso for the middlers as opposed to something like the bottom 5 because the stronger impression of imminent cancellation to the readers causes a sense of redundancy to give a more serious, in-depth talk about the series.

    The discussion especially feels like beating a dead horse when it reaches the bottom 3 series. For example, how much would everyone feel like talking about Smoky B.B. given its latest rankings? Series that rank exceptionally low always bomb for a firm reason.
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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by FanOfAniManga View Post
    The discussion especially feels like beating a dead horse when it reaches the bottom 3 series. For example, how much would everyone feel like talking about Smoky B.B. given its latest rankings? Series that rank exceptionally low always bomb for a firm reason.
    Well, I think the main reason for people not talk about Smoky B.B. (or other bottom dwellers) is that a translation is behind. I think people who can read raw actually follow the latest chapter.

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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizou 10 View Post
    Well, I think the main reason for people not talk about Smoky B.B. (or other bottom dwellers) is that a translation is behind. I think people who can read raw actually follow the latest chapter.
    Maybe, but what about something like Takamagahara? It was a series that got scanlated quite actively, not to mention its availability on then-called WSJ Alpha.

    Actually, to add on, I think it might also have to do with whether it had a chance to survive or not in the first place, 10 chapters in or so. If it's something that eventually falters over time like Enigma, Kurogane or Magico, there'd still be some adequate discussion as the series approaches cancellation. But if it's something like Bulge, Takamagahara, Edison, Mutou Black or Smoky B.B., there's just not much to go on.
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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by FanOfAniManga View Post
    Actually, to add on, I think it might also have to do with whether it had a chance to survive or not in the first place, 10 chapters in or so. If it's something that eventually falters over time like Enigma, Kurogane or Magico, there'd still be some adequate discussion as the series approaches cancellation. But if it's something like Bulge, Takamagahara, or Smoky B.B., there's just not much to go on.
    Well, I think either people aren't really interested to talk about the series that did badly at the beginning (like Bulge, Takamagahara, and Smoky B.B.) or most people just dropped those series like first couple of chapters (like honestly, how many people follow these series after reading up to chapter 3).

    I think the series that did really good at the beginning then cancelled about one year after are more interesting to talk about it.
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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizou 10 View Post
    Well, I think either people aren't really interested to talk about the series that did badly at the beginning (like Bulge, Takamagahara, and Smoky B.B.) or most people just dropped those series like first couple of chapters (like honestly, how many people follow these series after reading up to chapter 3).

    I think the series that did really good at the beginning then cancelled about one year after are more interesting to talk about it.
    It's precisely my opinion. Takamagahara and Bulge was series that was a failure since the beginning and most of the people dropped it in early chapters, so what's the point in discuss about them? Even more when our taste is right and these series are in bottom 5 and near of the cancellation.
    Series like Enigma and Magico are different, they weren't dropped by the most of people since their start I suppose and had a time longer of serialization to build up fanbase, this why we saw more people talking about this type of series than the first one.

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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Leoat12 View Post
    It's precisely my opinion. Takamagahara and Bulge was series that was a failure since the beginning and most of the people dropped it in early chapters, so what's the point in discuss about them? Even more when our taste is right and these series are in bottom 5 and near of the cancellation.
    Series like Enigma and Magico are different, they weren't dropped by the most of people since their start I suppose and had a time longer of serialization to build up fanbase, this why we saw more people talking about this type of series than the first one.
    People didnt like Takamagahara or was it just under read by people outside of JPN? I thought it had really good art at times even, really underrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharkBait View Post
    People didnt like Takamagahara or was it just under read by people outside of JPN? I thought it had really good art at times even, really underrated.
    Takamagahara was a failure since the beginning, it was a bottom dweller even before geting rated. The print numbers were really low and it didn't sell shit. Actually it was one of the biggest failuress in 2012 that I remember. Even Pakky did better iirc.
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    Takamagahara supposedly got better with time, but that doesn't help when multiple other fighting series are delivering a better quality/entertainment each time too. And wasn't Bulge liked up until it got weird and cancelled real fast?

    About talking about the lower ranked series: What are people supposed to talk about when many readers don't even try those new series out/haven't heard [anything good]about them yet? The chances to discuss popular series are just that, incedibly higher with a higher demographic reading those, even within this forum.
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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

    I think Bulge was a special case because it was by the author of Zoo which had a lot of fan here.
    And people don't discuss series which will be cancelled that's quite understandable. Often last chapters are not even scanlated.

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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

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