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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeromcd View Post
    Looks like World Trigger's first volume sales are worse than the latest volume of Cross Manage. It will not be ranking this week.

    World Trigger volume 1 → Less than 12,000 copies
    However, it looks like the volume 1 of World Trigger got a request for another print-out (along with the volume 1 of Gamma (series from Jump SQ.)).

    ---------- Post added at 11:53 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:36 PM ----------

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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Nensense View Post
    Damn : /.
    But wasn't Kuroko no Baskets first volume sales also pretty bad?
    You are right.
    I didn't find any sales numbers for volume 01 back in 2009, so it was less than 23,987.
    But if you want the following 4 volumes to compare later...

    Kuroko no Basket sales in 2009
    Volume1st week sales2nd week sales
    0238,053-
    0343,42031,469
    0467,14724,412
    0597,160-

    Discuss the yaoi side of Shingeki no Kyojin and Kuroko no Basket at the Boys Love section.

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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

    Volume sales have minor importance between new series by what I know, position in the TOC is more important and World Trigger is being ranked better recently. I guess it doesn't have a immediate danger, only if its rankings get worse. Did Kuroko no Basket have bad rankings in the beginning?

    Ginga Patrol Jako seems like... crazy and exotic with this images... I guess...

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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

    The first volume of new series very rarely sell well. It usually takes a few volumes to establish sales. I've never seen a new, low ranking series saved by sales of volume one.

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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiten View Post
    The first volume of new series very rarely sell well. It usually takes a few volumes to establish sales. I've never seen a new, low ranking series saved by sales of volume one.
    It's true, but there is a pattern in the sales in the series with a reasonable success in its beginning, it's about more or less than 45.000 copies. If the series has good ranking and sell nearly this number the series has more chance to survive and establish sales, Nisekoi is a example.
    If the series has bad ranking with this sales or minor certainly it won't survive and there aren't new series that sell well and get bad in the ranking, this is almost illogic.

    World Trigger sells bad with reasonable positions, I guess it will survive a bit more.
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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Leoat12 View Post
    Volume sales have minor importance between new series by what I know, position in the TOC is more important and World Trigger is being ranked better recently. I guess it doesn't have a immediate danger, only if its rankings get worse. Did Kuroko no Basket have bad rankings in the beginning?

    Ginga Patrol Jako seems like... crazy and exotic with this images... I guess...
    The table posted by ruggia is hard to read. But Kuroko no Basket (the 22nd title) seemed to be a middle tier in the beggining. Not sure.


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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Leoat12 View Post
    It's true, but there is a pattern in the sales in the series with a reasonable success in its beginning, it's about more or less than 45.000 copies. If the series has good ranking and sell nearly this number the series has more chance to survive and establish sales, Nisekoi is a example.
    If the series has bad ranking with this sales or minor certainly it won't survive and there aren't new series that sell well and get bad in the ranking, this is almost illogic.

    World Trigger sells bad with reasonable positions, I guess it will survive a bit more.
    Volume one sales are about as meaningful as palm readings and tarot cards. If World Trigger ranks well, it won't be canceled. If it bottoms out after Cross Manage and Edison go, it will eventually be canceled. The only thing that matters right now is TOC rankings. World Trigger's rankings are probably high enough to survive at least one round of cancellations. Cross Manage, Edison, and Mutou Black should protect it, maybe Smokey B.B. too, once it is ranked.

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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

    Author's comments for those interested from this week's issue.

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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

    I am assumin Bapti-san is Jean Baptista, the IRL Bakuman's Hattori.. So he is currently the editor of Cross Manga, World Trigger and Naruto?? O.o

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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

    I love Naoshi's comment.


    OCCUPY THE WORLD

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    <%M3J> Though I wouldn't mind Sari dominating me.

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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiten View Post
    Volume one sales are about as meaningful as palm readings and tarot cards. If World Trigger ranks well, it won't be canceled. If it bottoms out after Cross Manage and Edison go, it will eventually be canceled. The only thing that matters right now is TOC rankings. World Trigger's rankings are probably high enough to survive at least one round of cancellations. Cross Manage, Edison, and Mutou Black should protect it, maybe Smokey B.B. too, once it is ranked.
    First volume sales are more a guide for us, really it has little impact in the decision of editors in which one will be cancelled, these say some things for sure, though.

    Is there any special date for three authors mention Bapti-san? I don't know nothing about him, is he a important person in Jump?

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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Leoat12 View Post
    Is there any special date for three authors mention Bapti-san? I don't know nothing about him, is he a important person in Jump?
    In all honesty, I had not heard of him until today. It was all in the author's comments from today's jump (from viz).

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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

    I found Horikoshi at Pixiv well I think its him

    http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=5302938
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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

    Yes he famouse, he was old One Piece Editor. You can see him here (5:29)

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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2012-2013] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

    Nice, thanks for the video.

    Btw, there was an interesting part in today's SJ podcast. They did it with Hisashi Sasaki and they were talking about One Piece for a bit. They wanted to know if he knew what the "One Piece" was. Sasaki didn't know, but he said that One Piece's seven editors were all told by Oda what it was, on the first day they worked with him.

    http://shonenjump.viz.com/node/1671 at 20:30

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