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Tobirama's statements are nothing but hypothesis based on rumours and hearsay.
Rumours and hearsay? That man has been fighting an uchiha everyday as a senju's warrior in their warring days. And the fact that the only clan who knows too much about the uchiha are the senju and vice versa. So tobirama's statements was based from their analysis and experienced as the rival and mortal enemy of the uchiha for, let say, 500 years ago? Don't tell me that the senju was fighting the uchiha for so many years and yet they know nothing about their sharingan's and ability?
^ I believe Tobirama himself stated it so?
^ It aligns more with emotional turmoil than hatred.
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Wait wait wait...
I actually hate Sasuke and love Naruto but...
Sasuke is obviously stronger than most top jounins now. He could probably defeat a kage in some scenarios.
Now ok, Sasuke without Sharingan would probably do better use of his lightning and fire jutsus, let's not forget Kirin that seems to be pretty strong.
Sasuke broke Itachi's Tsukuyomi nad now he seems a lot stronger than he was that time.
Can't see how Sasuke would be weak... Sasuke without Sharingan is also a LOT more careful and intelligent, he could probably be konoha's second smartest "genin", right after Shikamaru and use his jutsus in unpredictable ways. Let's just not think in Sasuke as that stupid berserker "I have MS so I can just rush into Raikage and shit", remeber Sasuke that fought Deidara and stuff
And using/accusing others of bias weakens argument. I have stated multiple times that I don't like Sasuke, and even when I did, I liked Naruto more than Sasuke over the course of the series, and still do even if I don't like current Naruto. Like I said, I'm far more unbiased than majority of the posters here, from what I've seen.
And I'm not avoiding other stuff he can do. I pointed out what he can do and what Sharingan helps him do. And manga has even shown Sasuke without Sharingan would be on a higher level than many shinobi he fights. Even if Lee can beat Sasuke, Sasuke can still be better than Lee and become a jounin.
As ninjabot says, Sasuke has something that very few of his age group have: versatility. even if you don't count genjutsu casting or defense, he's still versatile.
And you mean Naruto with Kyuubi's chakra.
His speed did not increase, he was able to predict Naruto's movements and react accordingly.Quote:
I never said it didn't help him in a fight, I'm saying it doesn't make Sasuke faster or stronger or enhance his body in ways that Kyuubi or Cursed Seal does.Quote:
Why do you think he'd have won with Itachi's eyes? I don't think the blindness became an issue until the end of his fight with Danzou, and he didn't seem to run low on chakra until Mei challenged him.Quote:
Against Lee, I doubt his Sharingan was the problem. Sasuke was too slow to react to Lee. Sharingan doesn't help you if your body can't react. Lee is probably the only one one in Sasuke's age group that could take base Sasuke and Naruto out quickly.
we can use naruto eyes for example.
naruto eyes show him that he is in a mode, naruto has his regular eyes but when he goes into sage mode, which grant him abilities such as the ability to sense chakra and the ability to use senjutsu, his eyes change.
when sasuke eyes changes into the sharingan from his normal eyes, he too is granted a boost in power.
sasuke power is in his eye, sage mode grants power in the body, so ofcourse the two would have different form of abilities.
the very fact that the sharingan is shown when its abilities are in use should be enough evidence that its a mode.
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I'm in no way blinded, especially when I have no attachment to the character. If I was as biased as you say, I'd be joining you and attacking Sasuke, saying he sucks and all.
Naruto's eyes don't give him anything, it's just a physical change associated with Sage Mode. Sharingan gives Sasuke benefits, but it doesn't give him more power or anything. If it did, then Sasuke wouldn't have as much trouble in his fights as he usually does...
naruto eyes has a purpose, its a indication that he is in sage mode and using his abilities from being in sage mode. I never said that it gave him powers.
I just think your stating an opinion about the sharingan. you don't view its abilites as important enough to be consider a mode. when in fact its a mode, that he has to activate and deactivate. it doesn't really matter if the abilities are useful to the person in winning a battle, it only matter that its there.
Lets say that if naruto had sage mode and lets say in sage mode he had this ability to talk to animals like Jugo. I would still consider it to be a mode, cause he could not talk to the animals without having to go into sage mode.
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As asked before, why wouldn't they employ an advantage in life and death battles? They're not playing games here. That's like asking why Minato always uses his tags despite being fast even without them. You don't screw around when you're life is on the line.
does it really matter which word i use, abilities, techniques.
And does it really matter where it's learned, the fact that the uchiha's are not born with it and only able to activate them at a certain point is what you should mostly look at.
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