That paralyzing genjutsu paralyzes though, meaning they wouldn't be able to move, and mind control wouldn't allow them to freely speak their mind. Itachi didn't start crying until Fugaku spoke of how proud he was of him. Plus, if a controlling genjutsu was used, then he surely wouldn't have had to do the deed himself. He could have had them kill each other, barring him having to even do it in the first place and no simply handing off the deed to Obito.
We saw them sitting up late before, when they were discussing things with Itachi. One would think that they were waiting up for Sasuke, what with him being so late.
Genjutsu can work any way the user wants it to. If Itachi wanted them to be able to speak I see no reason why he wouldn't allow it. As for them killing each other, that would cruel and is not like Itachi. He did the deed himself, he shoulder the guilt and the pain.
As for them waiting up for Sasuke, certainly possible. But again, I do not see Fugaku, who had very strong feelings for what he was doing, just laying down his life just because his son disagreed with him and wanted to kill him. A man of his position would not allow his son to kill off his entire clan. Uchiha's kill their own all the time throughout history, Fugaku certainly loved his son, but he did have another. I see no reason to believe that he wouldn't have tried to defend himself and his wife.
I think there is a plothole surrounding the akatsuki rings. When akatsuki was introduced the rings themselves seemed to be kind of important however nowadays they appear to be forgotten at large. Right now he might as well have never mentioned them and we wouldn't even notice.
What do you guys think about this:
Remember Edo-Itachi and Edo-Nagato confronting Naruto and Bee? We know that Itachi's and Nagato's personality/brain were intact, since they chit-chatted with Naruto and Bee. But they still were influenced by Kabuto, meaning they had to do what Kabuto wanted despite their personality/brain wanting/thinking differently. So they ended up attacking, dodging, countering the enemy with their personality/brain intact.
My question is... why on earth would Itachi use his Mangekyou Sharingan, even though his brain knew "dude... chances are high that you will be "defeated", if you use that thing (MS)".
Karin was still unconscious when they met up with Obito and handed off the tentacle. She didn't awaken til sometime later to sense Jay.
If you just put your mind into it, there are tons of plotholes. the Edo Tensei jutsu, the Obito-Tobi conundrum, the Orochimaru immortality, Yamato... etc. As the years went by, I just tried to ignore all those plotholes since Kishi just won't correct any of those.
When Rin died, why didn't the Three Tails come out? When a Jinchuriki dies, the Tailed Beast should come out almost immediately because the seal is broken. It wasn't there in Obito's flashback.
- Tobi the Human Plothole....HE'S LITERALLY AND FIGURATIVELY THE HUMAN PLOTHOLE....DAMN YOU KISHI
true, remember how hard deidera tried to find his ring? and when orochimaru left akatsuki he took his ring with him and because of that they couldnt replace him and had only teams of 9 people.
the biggest plothole with tobi for me was that the kamui is a mangyeko sharnigan ability
yet he never went blind from spamming it
the only possibility is maybe his othe sharngan (the one he closed by performing izanagi at the end of the battle with konan)
could have been his brothers eye maybe so he had partial ems???
While that could be a plot hole, we really have no idea how good Obito's current eyesight is. Itachi was near blind for several years and that didn't prevent him from still being a boss, whereas Obito would only have to worry about being blind in one eye.