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    Narutos wind style variety and abilities

    Every since naruto has shown that he possesses an affinity towards wind style we all thought he would create a variety of wind techniques or learn some to add to his repertoire, however sadly he has not. FRS is impressive and the most advance wind tech there is but it's just one move. Donzou should some variety and temari has hers but Naruto simply has just that.

    What are some possible variations of wind style could naruto learn that would add to hi fighting style?

    Also since Naruto has shown just a limited amount of versatile techs in the manga what jutsus do you think could heighten and attribute to his fighting style?


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    Re: Narutos wind style variety and abilities

    Does farting count as wind element? Cause that would fit him... and when done by ~1000 clones it could also be quite lethal.
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    Re: Narutos wind style variety and abilities

    Fuuton biiju dorama incoming.

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    Re: Narutos wind style variety and abilities

    MiniRasenshuriken pretty much gave him all the variety he needs... he can either kill small things or kill big things.

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    Re: Narutos wind style variety and abilities

    Quote Originally Posted by rlinfamous View Post
    MiniRasenshuriken pretty much gave him all the variety he needs... he can either kill small things or kill big things.
    Exactly. FRS has enough variety since Naruto can make it in any size and he can execute it with or without throwing it. He made it perfect, usable in any situation for different kind of enemy. It only takes a hating troll to deny it. As for his variety in techniques in general, he's lacking, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roman View Post
    Exactly. FRS has enough variety since Naruto can make it in any size and he can execute it with or without throwing it. He made it perfect, usable in any situation for different kind of enemy. It only takes a hating troll to deny it. As for his variety in techniques in general, he's lacking, of course.
    Naruto compared to most elemental users has had a veeeery short time for element manipulation training. For what he has done in that short period, id call him a genius.
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    Re: Narutos wind style variety and abilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Roman View Post
    Exactly. FRS has enough variety since Naruto can make it in any size and he can execute it with or without throwing it. He made it perfect, usable in any situation for different kind of enemy. It only takes a hating troll to deny it. As for his variety in techniques in general, he's lacking, of course.
    Except the fact that FRS is limited because it can only be used in Kyuubi Mode and Sage Mode, and in the later he can only use it twice.

    It doesn't matter now because Naruto is fighting monsters and immortals, but against normal shinobi it would have been nice to see him have some other jutsu in his arsenal, perhaps something that does less damage but is much faster.

    Not to mention, Naruto plainly showed us that he lacks defensive techniques, that is what led to Neji's death. So he could certainly use something else.

    I always had to the idea that he would create a tornado in Sage Mode, have Bunta shoot oil into it, and then set it on fire. A giant flaming tornado that he could control while in Sage Mode. Now THAT would be something to brag about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanadan View Post
    Naruto compared to most elemental users has had a veeeery short time for element manipulation training. For what he has done in that short period, id call him a genius.
    Ummm, no he hasn't. Naruto in fact has had more time training his element than nearly everyone in the series thanks to his use of clones. He managed to condense something like 30-40 years worth of training in a span of a few days. The only problem is he only learned to do two things in that time, manipulate wind, and create FRS.

    If he would have done that again he could have easily created dozens of techniques, but that would be too easy and wouldn't be good for the plot I guess.
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    Re: Narutos wind style variety and abilities

    [QUOTE=Delbi;3425884]Except the fact that FRS is limited because it can only be used in Kyuubi Mode and Sage Mode, and in the later he can only use it twice.
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    Think of Kyuubi mode and Sage Mode like Uchiha's Sharingan. It's a part of him which he can and will use in battles. We're not gonna get into the "base mode" crap discussion again, are we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delbi View Post
    Ummm, no he hasn't. Naruto in fact has had more time training his element than nearly everyone in the series thanks to his use of clones. He managed to condense something like 30-40 years worth of training in a span of a few days. The only problem is he only learned to do two things in that time, manipulate wind, and create FRS.

    If he would have done that again he could have easily created dozens of techniques, but that would be too easy and wouldn't be good for the plot I guess.
    Irrelevant, his clones are his own doing too. Also he passed both Jiraya and Minato in rasengan training so id still stick with him being a genius.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roman View Post
    Think of Kyuubi mode and Sage Mode like Uchiha's Sharingan. It's a part of him which he can and will use in battles. We're not gonna get into the "base mode" crap discussion again, are we?
    I was never one to bring that up, but the fact remains that FRS can only be used effectively in Sage Mode and Kyuubi Mode. He can only use it twice in Sage Mode before needing to gather more Natural Energy, that isn't exactly good.

    Kyuubi Mode however gives him the ability to use it much more, but he doesn't always fight in Kyuubi mode.

    My point is, while FRS is a great jutsu, it has limits and is not without fault. If he had other jutsu in his arsenal it wouldn't be such a big deal if he fell out of Kyuubi Mode or Sage Mode, as he could resort to another jutsu, perhaps say one where he didn't have to use clones for once.
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    Re: Narutos wind style variety and abilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Delbi View Post
    I always had to the idea that he would create a tornado in Sage Mode, have Bunta shoot oil into it, and then set it on fire. A giant flaming tornado that he could control while in Sage Mode. Now THAT would be something to brag about.
    I like that, though Id see it as a fire tech and wind fuels fire but it would be awesome. Maybe the wind element can suck the oponent in and the fire torches him/her
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanadan View Post
    Irrelevant, his clones are his own doing too. Also he passed both Jiraya and Minato in rasengan training so id still stick with him being a genius.
    No, it is very relevant and you are misunderstanding what happened. He didn't do anything in a short time, it took him a very long time to do what he did, it just seemed short because he used his clones.

    His clones being his own doing is the irrelevant part, the fact is he needed a lot of time to learn his element, something that isn't genius like. He didn't even know he learned information from his clones after having used them for years, that should tell you he isn't genius. I could go on and on about this but there is actually a thread dedicated to "The concept of Genius".

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    I like that, though Id see it as a fire tech and wind fuels fire but it would be awesome. Maybe the wind element can suck the oponent in and the fire torches him/her
    There are many applications for all the elements, but with Naruto's chakra pool wind could easily be the strongest in his hands. Unfortunately Kishi has no intention of letting him expose what he could do if he kept using the clone training technique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delbi View Post
    I was never one to bring that up, but the fact remains that FRS can only be used effectively in Sage Mode and Kyuubi Mode. He can only use it twice in Sage Mode before needing to gather more Natural Energy, that isn't exactly good.

    Kyuubi Mode however gives him the ability to use it much more, but he doesn't always fight in Kyuubi mode.

    My point is, while FRS is a great jutsu, it has limits and is not without fault. If he had other jutsu in his arsenal it wouldn't be such a big deal if he fell out of Kyuubi Mode or Sage Mode, as he could resort to another jutsu, perhaps say one where he didn't have to use clones for once.
    Given what we've seen so far, he can sustain large periods of time being in both modes so the FRS's negative sides only matter when he can't use either modes. Which probably wouldn't happen if he fought anyone who isn't Madara or Obito with Juubi.

    Why wouldn't he use any clones? It's your opinion that making clones is a disadvantage or a style that doesn't suit you. However, it suits him and is the main type of way he's fighting. Of course he's gonna implement them 99% of the time in battles.

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    I understand perfectly what happened, it is still his own accomplishment, that he managed to condense the time is also part of him being a genius.
    That he didn't know about this information was because it was made up at that part in the story. Genius comes in different forms, that Rock Lee can open gates is a sign of him being a genius, not how good he scores on the SAT.
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    Re: Narutos wind style variety and abilities

    Quote Originally Posted by Roman View Post
    Why wouldn't he use any clones? It's your opinion that making clones is a disadvantage or a style that doesn't suit you. However, it suits him and is the main type of way he's fighting. Of course he's gonna implement them 99% of the time in battles.
    You misunderstood me. Using clones is fine, but the fact that he has to summon clones just to perform other jutsu is not. It's a waster of chakra (well not really cuz he has so much) but more importantly a waste of time. Fighting characters as fast as the Raikage, Sasuke, Gai, etc means you have very little room for error. Having to summon a clone or two to perform an attack leaves an opening for you to get attacked.

    Now, if he could perform some king of jutsu that didn't require clones, say just a mid ranged futon jutsu, he would have a lot easier times in battles. An AOE time of jutsu would be nice too, such as the one Kakazu used on Kakashi while he was fighting Hidan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanadan View Post
    I understand perfectly what happened, it is still his own accomplishment, that he managed to condense the time is also part of him being a genius.
    That he didn't know about this information was because it was made up at that part in the story. Genius comes in different forms, that Rock Lee can open gates is a sign of him being a genius, not how good he scores on the SAT.
    Again, I'm not taking anything away from him. But there's a difference between solving a math problem in 2 mins and solving a math problem in two hours.

    It wasn't even his idea to use clones. And then he had to have things dumbed down for him to understand. How is that genius like?

    And you misunderstand what a "genius of hard work" is. That was an oxymoron because genius is normally and innate quality seen from a young age. This was the case with every known genius in the manga. They don't need to work as hard to achieve greatness, that was the only concept in the Chunnin exams. You had the geniuses in Sasuke and Neji, and the hard workers in Naruto and Lee. They were at odds, and the whole idea was that Lee and Naruto wanted to prove they were better than geniuses by just working hard.

    Lee was a genius of hard work because he achieved something only a genius should have been able to at his age because he would train till he passed out day in and day out. Genius is a natural ability. What Lee achieved was not something he could naturally do.

    As for Naruto surpassing Jiraiya and his father, he did so with hard work. He did not surpass either of them in intelligence, but in combat ability. That needs to be understood.
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