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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
People saying Sasuke should be forgiven because others have done worse and been forgiven is like saying we should forgive all criminals just because a serial killer once got an innocent at his trial not a guilty, the fact that his crimes are not as heinous as others does not forgive his actions at all.
Can you people list Sasuke's actions that make him so "heinous"?
Then balance them with him saving the entire world curently in the manga. You can be damn sure if the Kages where not there they would be dead...
and he hasnt saved anyone yet, he just arrived on the battlefield.
It's called character growth with a capital C. Unbelievable? That's simply because you refuse to accept an outcome that you dislike.Quote:
Lol if that's called arrogance, then Naruto would be the most arrogant character in the series, since he constantly talked about how he will be the Hokage, like, 3 times a day and 30 times a week, heh.Quote:
At least he wouldn't be a bigot.Quote:
See, this just proves my point. People are simply butthurt because Sasuke is eclipsing Naruto.Quote:
And please, don't fake it by saying that Sasuke is an immoral character. If scums like Tobirama, Onoki and A can be hailed as "heroes" and saviors", how much morality do you need to be a Hokage? Lol.
At the very least Sasuke will not, say, massacre a whole clan "for the village". He would also definitely not kill an innocent just to dig out that Byakugan "for the village".
Kakashi is still trash for failing to stand up against the "shadows" of the village. In the end he is as good as any trash who follow orders from the elders blindly.Quote:
Sasuke changed his mind ONE TIME in the whole series. Unstable my foot.Quote:
I'm fairly certain that the tide is going to turn in the foreseeable future. And the elders? They'll be replaced soon enough. Tsunade? She would probably kill herself to save the other fail-Kages.Quote:
He's going to compete for the position fair and square. Nothing delusional about it at all.Quote:
He has matured. It's just that you do not have the maturity to acknowledge it.Quote:
I think you are mistaking Danzou for Sasuke LOL.Quote:
I am going to enjoy the next few chapters with Sasuke performing "NON-talk-no-jutsu-related" techniques. Sucks for all the haters.
Last edited by Ryr; May 23, 2013 at 10:00 AM.
And please get off your high horse, Sasuke refusing to kill an innocent. He would have killed Sakura if Kakashi and then Naruto hadn't intervened. And he almost killed Karin to dispose of Danzo. Karin was a team-mate!
Last edited by Avishek; May 23, 2013 at 10:34 AM.
Sasuke killing those samurai is no different from Minato killing those Iwa nins or Kakashi killing those Sound nins during the exam. Sasuke killing the Kumo nin is no different from Minato killing that Iwa nin who nearly killed Kakashi first time he used chidori. Sasuke was attacked, he was just defending himself. Why would he put his life or Taka's life at risk by going easy on the samurai and giving them a chance to attack? He even warned them to back off.
What about Tobirama being delusional and thinking the Uchiha were affected by hatred or emotion? Or thinking that Madara = all Uchiha?
Balancing Sasuke's actions....
Here we go...
He wanted to kill Itachi so much that he even joined forces with Orochimaru.
Just as the things and his obsession in killing his bro are supposed to be finished, Tobi came in and after the flow of their conversation what?
He then turned his eye to destroying the Konoha...He was so obssessed with it that he even wanted to kill Kakashi and Sakura w/o thinking of their past relationships. Now he met his brother and even after their conversation Sasuke still would want to destroy Konoha.
Then he met the Kages and Hashirama put a score by changing him again not to destroy the Konoha but rather govern it.....
So Sasuke from a good kid > (bad guy)Itachi's obsession > (bad guy) Konoha destruction obsession > (good guy)I want to become the Hokage!
As we can see the turn of events in Sasuke's life from a good kid to "Konoha obssesion" is somehow a good flow of events.
The thing that actually ruined it is that after all he did he went to the battlefield and announce that he wants to become the Hokage like nothing happens. The more acceptable sense would be that Sasuke declares "Wait guys calm....I change my mind I wanna help you defeat the adversary" then later after putting badass performance and the shinobi world is saved with his help it's a more acceptable time that he declares " Look guys i realize my mistakes. The Konoha must be protected.....soooo I wanna become a Hokage". This way negative reactions are minimized and I think this is the better way of approaching situation like that. Think of this: You want to destroy your country and you were once responsible for killing some of its leaders and even attempted to kill some of your friends, and then all of a sudden when you realize something good you immediately announce that you want to become the President of that country. This is somehow ridiculous.
Now the point is how are we gonna justify this action from Sasuke?
Sasuke isn't a bad guy at first. He was in fact a kind boy. Everything changed when his family and clan were slaughtered. The emotional impact turned him to what he is. As being said the sharingan eye has with it emotional blows that would surely consume one's heart especially when the Uchiha encounters huge frustration. Also Sasuke is just 16 and is so prone to immediate influence. He can turn immediately to being emo then wants to bang everyone else. Then suddenly he can change his mind and love something he absolutely hates before- Itachi and Konoha's hatred to Itachi and Konoha's pillar for support. This is how Kishi portrays Sasuke.
Kishi may have some flaws in portraying Sasuke's character and instability, but Sasuke I believe isn't an asshole. It's just that it's the Sasuke way of this manga like Naruto way of not giving up even how far a friend becomes worse....somehow can be branded as foolish but can take more interesting shows in the manga...