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Translations: Gintama 510 (2)
Had Sasuke ever been persecuted for anything, I would have cringed with utmost disgust at the lopsidedness as a result of the whole Patriotic thing as being some kind of a 'free' ideology to slaughter as Nations or their followers saw fit.
The last chapter sucked.
Anyway Sasuke seems a bit more chill now. I figured he was gonna be all like, yo now that Im here everythings fine, just let me handle this and Naruto dont get in my way.
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Last edited by Delbi; June 15, 2013 at 11:20 PM.
This is a response to the above.
Sasuke was a criminal, but then again A and Oonoki and many of the past Kages are considered criminals by their peers for their war crimes, illegal actions, and all sorts of shady shit they did.
In hindsight, what Sasuke did, not what he planned to do, is nothing compared to the transgressions of those before him.
As for Danzou, you realize he was the kicker behind the Uchiha massacure? That he watched as his village was destroyed just so he could become Hokage? That he captured non shinobi children and trained them as spys? That he let Orochimaru do what he pleased with innocent people? Sasuke is a saint compared to him.
Sasuke, again, did not knowingly contribute to anything. He had no idea what Obtio's plans were. Oonki actually hired Akatsuki to work for him. Him giving them money helped them gain power to capture Biju's.
If Sasuke stayed in the village he would have still killed Itachi. Itachi was always going to let Sasuke kill him, and only in his death did he realize he shouldn't of did that. Nothing about Sasuke or anyone in Konoha would have brought Itachi back to Konoha to be healed, you must be crazy if you think that.
And finally, it seems that you haven't been paying attention. How can the shinobi villages forgiven one another for all their crimes, all the killing they've done, and not be hypocrites if they punish Sasuke, who is a product of the system that they run into the fucking ground? Sasuke deserved to punished before all the hoola that Naruto, Gaara and Onoki shouted during this war. They basically gave a free pass to all people who've they fought against before, and there is no reason Sasuke should be excluded from that, none whatsoever, especially since he is the ONLY reason the Alliance is still standing right now. He revived Orochimaru, he wanted the Hokages, and he let Orochimaru let them (minus Hashirama) stay resurrected to fight in the war.
Last edited by Delbi; June 06, 2013 at 09:26 AM.
I don't like how you are talking to posters here. Everyone has legitimate arguments, not just you.
Nodody argues that Danzou is a saint. Most of what he did is unkown to anybody else though.
The way you are defending Sasuke is wrong though, He didn't know akatsukis motifs therefore it can't be hold against him? He captured (tried) Bee and knew he might die, he infiltrated a country and killed people to show is loyality to Obito. Ignorance doesn't save you from judgement. If he didn't know their objectives he shouldn't have cooperated. And Sasuke isn't stupid to begin with. He atleast knew their target are the jununshuriki and the possible destruction of konoha. Comparing him to other people who did evil doesn't lessen his crimes. They might get absolution because they are in the position of -kage. He isnt a -kage yet.
Again, they'd all be dead if not for him. His crimes were punishable before all this BS with the alliance turning the other cheek to everything and loving one another thanks to Gaara, Naruto, and Onoki.
If they were to punish Sasuke, they'd be nothing by hypocrites. If you can't see that, then there is something very wrong.
sasuke is still a kid who can be easily influenced.
he should be forgiven.
gaara and others were assholes but they changed.
so why not sasuke?
i know his powers will surely help the alliance bring the opponents down.
perhaps sasuke may beat madara
sasuke vs madara
bring it on!
After this last chapter Ill co-sign on the title thread
I am also going to "co-sign" with the title.
I wanted to w8 and see more on how Sasuke's mind works but... He is still the same dude... Posted this in another place but i can see is relevant to this topic so:
Sasuke did NOT change... Only his goal...
Sasuke: I will destroy you all!
Sasuke: I will dominate you all!
He really is no different... He is going to destroy anything in his way to get what he wants...
Sasuke is just about the same damn thing with Anakin:
Sounds familiar? Sasuke curent goal is to build his "new empire" and fuck whoever get's in his way.. He already made it clear he does not give a damn about the others opinions and he will BE HOKAGE... Now he is not giving a damn about Naruto and he is goign to kill those bijus...Quote:
So basically, Sasuke being a lot like Tobirama makes Sasuke an asshole but Tobirama good? YES, DOUBLE STANDARDS HERE.
I don't see what's wrong with what Sasuke's doing. Unless he actually kills someone from Konoha, his plan to become a hokage doesn't make him an asshole. Hell, Konohamaru was willing to beat his grandfather up to become a hokage, but why isn't that mentioned? People just like to nitpick at everything Sasuke does but turn a blind eye towards characters like Gaara and Naruto.
Tobirama is an ass, what does that matter? Does it make Sasuke less of one?