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    Should Sasuke be Hokage or even a Hokage candidate?

    In the most recent chapter, Sasuke declared himself a Hokage candidate that shocked everyone except for Naruto.

    Having seen Sasuke's development upto now, this statement seems to stem from the following factors.
    1.A Hokage is the most powerful and influencial member of the Konoha village.
    2.Despite his many accomplishments, Itachi was just a foot soldier and so could not actively take part in the discussions that may have spared the massacre on his clan
    3.Sasuke has come to know about the thought processes of the previous Hokage(specifically Hashirama and Tobirama), so he is suited for being Hokage.
    4.He's a master tactician when not laughing like a lunatic
    5.Naruto, for all his heroic achievements, is anything but a leader.

    Then again, there are several factors that go against Sasuke:
    1.He's always isolated himself and never been a total team member.
    2.His actions haven't always been carefully thought out.
    3.He abandoned his village to collaborate with the person who was responsible for the recent destruction of the village as well as the death of the Hokage.
    4.He has been a member of the outlawed group Akatsuki.
    5.He attempted to kidnap the jinchuriki of the Cloud village.
    6.He attacked the Five Kage Summit and cut off the Raikage's arm.
    7.He killed the intermediate Hokage Danzo.

    That's a long list of negatives and despite his reasons(killing Danzo is the only thing he can get away with, if at all), he will have to do a lot to convince the people of Konoha of his aspirations to be the leader of the village.

    And given that Naruto has the same goals, as well as the backing of the entire village and the current Hokage, it is difficult to see how anyone else can be Hokage.

    And even if Naruto decides to withdraw, it seems Shikamaru is the best suited for his generation.

    Please give your thoughts about whether Sasuke deserves to be Hokage, and if he does, how he should overcome the negative aspects mentioned above. And if not Sasuke or Naruto, who should be Hokage from Naruto's generation?Shikamaru?Someone else?

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    Re: Should Sasuke be Hokage or even a Hokage candidate?

    sasuke answer: i do not care about your opinion...sasuke terrible candidate for hokage and naruto better leader than any other

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    Re: Should Sasuke be Hokage or even a Hokage candidate?

    I rather want choji to become a hokage instead of shikamaru.

    Shikamaru as a ninja is powerless and useless without his group.

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    Re: Should Sasuke be Hokage or even a Hokage candidate?

    Quote Originally Posted by marshall313 View Post
    I rather want choji to become a hokage instead of shikamaru.

    Shikamaru as a ninja is powerless and useless without his group.
    this. shikamaru been jonin commander like shikaku

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    Re: Should Sasuke be Hokage or even a Hokage candidate?

    Quote Originally Posted by marshall313 View Post
    I rather want choji to become a hokage instead of shikamaru.

    Shikamaru as a ninja is powerless and useless without his group.
    Hokage is not just about raw power. Shikamaru would actualy make a GREAT Hokage. Having a strategist and genius like himself run the village things would go great. Now when the village is attacked and he ACTUALY NEEDS to fight just use the ninja's under his command...

    Make a team of himself + Naruto + Sasuke and go anihilate anybody who would be retarded enough to attack a village when said village has a man (Naruto) that can destroy all the other villages at the same time... Adding Sasuke would be just complete overkill....

    ______

    Right now the best canditates are as follows(ignoring Tsunade obviously):

    1-Kakashi.
    2-Shikamaru.
    3-Shino.
    4-Naruto
    5-Sasuke

    Naruto is so low because he acts like a moron even if its 99% of cases for comic relief... Thing is we can't ignore those things...
    Sasuke is so low because he does not care for Konoha's ninja's opinion and the fact that he is mentally unstable (he did not prove as of now that he is not).

    Thing is i could put Naruto as Nr.1 on the list asuming he would do:

    1-Grab Shikamaru and put him in charge of the village's books, missions and what not. Aka Shika ending up like some type of general/accountant.
    2-Any seriously decision he would need to take to pass it by Sasuke and Shikamaru.

    Asuming the above Naruto would make a great leader. His hearth is in the right place.
    Last edited by xXan; May 23, 2013 at 02:51 AM.

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    Re: Should Sasuke be Hokage or even a Hokage candidate?

    shikamaru too lazy for hokage and this not his dream

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    Re: Should Sasuke be Hokage or even a Hokage candidate?

    Quote Originally Posted by flow like View Post
    shikamaru too lazy for hokage and this not his dream
    If it does come down to Shikamaru being the best to be hokage, and everyone want's him, I doubt he would backtrack from the task. Yes, he's laidback but so is Kakashi. He has improved tremendously and I doubt there is a better brain in the village than his. Having had such people like Asuma, who has made him understand the Will of Fire and the duties of a hokage, and his father Shikaku has made Shikamaru the most mature of the lot.

    But still, this would be best for the village. Naruto for Hokage, Shikamaru as second-in-command like his father before him and Sasuke as the head of the police force like the Uchiha before him. But instead of the motive being to give them some semblance of power so that they don't revolt, Sasuke should be given complete independence in his actions and any major actions should be taken by all three. Still, Sasuke is still an unknown about what he will be able to or even want to contribute to the village. Hope he's got his course of actions all sorted out.
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    Re: Should Sasuke be Hokage or even a Hokage candidate?

    @xXan hokages not need made strategy and paperwork alone... hokages need made right decision and naruto prove it

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    Re: Should Sasuke be Hokage or even a Hokage candidate?

    Nope, too emotionally fragile. Naruto might not be the brightest guy but he at least is strong in his convictions and those seem to be held by the large majority of the ninja community. Sasuke is also way to self centered.
    Meh

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    Re: Should Sasuke be Hokage or even a Hokage candidate?

    Quote Originally Posted by xXan View Post
    Hokage is not just about raw power. Shikamaru would actualy make a GREAT Hokage. Having a strategist and genius like himself run the village things would go great. Now when the village is attacked and he ACTUALY NEEDS to fight just use the ninja's under his command...

    Make a team of himself + Naruto + Sasuke and go anihilate anybody who would be retarded enough to attack a village when said village has a man (Naruto) that can destroy all the other villages at the same time... Adding Sasuke would be just complete overkill....

    ______

    Right now the best canditates are as follows(ignoring Tsunade obviously):

    1-Kakashi.
    2-Shikamaru.
    3-Shino.
    4-Naruto
    5-Sasuke

    Naruto is so low because he acts like a moron even if its 99% of cases for comic relief... Thing is we can't ignore those things...
    Sasuke is so low because he does not care for Konoha's ninja's opinion and the fact that he is mentally unstable (he did not prove as of now that he is not).

    Thing is i could put Naruto as Nr.1 on the list asuming he would do:

    1-Grab Shikamaru and put him in charge of the village's books, missions and what not. Aka Shika ending up like some type of general/accountant.
    2-Any seriously decision he would need to take to pass it by Sasuke and Shikamaru.

    Asuming the above Naruto would make a great leader. His hearth is in the right place.
    It's the hokages job to protect the village and its people. And shikamaru is no doubt can't protect the konoha. His powerless.

    Shikamaru is just fit to become a strategist. Nothing more.

    He'll definitely useful to naruto or sasuke as a hokage's strategist.

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    Re: Should Sasuke be Hokage or even a Hokage candidate?

    Quote Originally Posted by marshall313 View Post
    It's the hokages job to protect the village and its people. And shikamaru is no doubt can't protect the konoha. His powerless.

    Shikamaru is just fit to become a strategist. Nothing more.

    He'll definitely useful to naruto or sasuke as a hokage's strategist.
    I don't see how his ninjutsu strength is of importance. A hokage is also a leader and if you are in the position to make sure that Konoha uses it's resources and power better then anyone else it could protect Konoha much better then a spear head.
    He clearly has leadership qualities.
    Meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanadan View Post
    I don't see how his ninjutsu strength is of importance. A hokage is also a leader and if you are in the position to make sure that Konoha uses it's resources and power better then anyone else it could protect Konoha much better then a spear head.
    He clearly has leadership qualities.
    If that is the case, what's the point of having 3 elders?

    Tsunade on her inauguration

    Tsunade : as a hokage, I'll protect the konoha with my life.

    Shikamaru : as a hokage, I'll make sure the konoha uses its resources properly.

    The thing is, the number role of the hokage is to protect the konoha. And given on what ebisu has been said to konohamaru, being a hokage means you master at least a thousand jutsu. So meaning, ninjutsu is definitely one of the requirements for the hokage.

    And sad to say, shikamaru is no better. How shikamaru would protect the konoha? Using his shadow jutsu? My goodness.

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    Naruto and Sasuke are both going to lead the village like Hashirama wanted for himself and Madara, hence Naruto accomplishing something Hashirama couldn't.

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    Re: Should Sasuke be Hokage or even a Hokage candidate?

    Forgiveness is a long stretch for Sasuke.

    Gaara was made Hokage for political reasons, as Baki stated. He was only loved by the younger generation while the elders were only keeping a watch on him and when he was abducted, they gave up on him. He was not made Hokage despite his tainted early life but because of it.

    Onoki had the support of the people when he used the Akatsuki or given that we've known so little of the stone, we cannot really comment on it. The other kage were against Onoki, not his own village.

    The little we've seen of A's and Mei's history doesn't give us any reason why he or she should be hated or even disliked in their village.

    As for Konoha, the only disputable Hokage, although briefly, was Danzo and even then, his appointment only happened because the village elders supported him. The people wanted Naruto to be the Hokage then and there.

    As for Sasuke being forgiven in light of Itachi's actual actions, I doubt he can justify the following:
    1.Working with Oro and Kabuto immediately after they decimated the village and killed the Third. He wanted power and everyone in this village is so weak?Right. Gotta do better if you want to be forgiven.
    2.Has been a ronin for over 2 years?Searching for Itachi?Couldn't he have done that from the village with permission from the Hokage?
    3.Attacked Bee and tried to kidnap the Cloud Jinchuriki. Just trying to help out a fellow Uchiha? Sorry, no dice.
    4.Disrupted the 5 Kage meet, cut off A's arm and killed a lot of Samurai? Great way to put yourself on the no-fly list, kid.
    5.Killed Danzo, the interim Hokage. Sure, he was a creep but there's no denying everything he did was for the village in his own twisted way. THIS IS THE ONLY THING HE MAY BE FORGIVEN FOR.

    Then, and only after all these years of being the enemy, he is helping the Allied Forces against Madara-Obito. I doubt this will be enough to let his candidature for Hokage be legitimate. None of the other previous or present Hokage or possible Hokage(Naruto and Shikamura) have as much hate among their own people like Sasuke does. And their hate is legitimate. Just saying he's been traumatised doesn't work.

    Infact, if Itachi's real actions are highlighted, Itachi has a better chance of being Hokage than Sasuke. Sadly, he's dead
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    Re: Should Sasuke be Hokage or even a Hokage candidate?

    Quote Originally Posted by marshall313 View Post
    If that is the case, what's the point of having 3 elders?

    Tsunade on her inauguration

    Tsunade : as a hokage, I'll protect the konoha with my life.

    Shikamaru : as a hokage, I'll make sure the konoha uses its resources properly.

    The thing is, the number role of the hokage is to protect the konoha. And given on what ebisu has been said to konohamaru, being a hokage means you master at least a thousand jutsu. So meaning, ninjutsu is definitely one of the requirements for the hokage.

    And sad to say, shikamaru is no better. How shikamaru would protect the konoha? Using his shadow jutsu? My goodness.
    Yes Shika version is so much better. He has his tools and those tools are Naruto, Sasuke and ALL the other ninja's in the village. Shikamaru sitting back and directing the fight would be so much better then Naruto charging in like a moron and hoping Konoha can take care of itself as he is fighting X dude.

    Brain over braw as long as its not a kindergarten fight. You have a good reason why Naruto was not made chunin... A chunin needs to LEAD people with tactics and what not....

    Naruto can charge the front lines as a Genin and as a Hokage.

    @Avishek

    Itachi did genocide on his own people even if it was to protect Konoha. In the end i would defenetly not vote for him.
    Last edited by xXan; May 23, 2013 at 07:23 AM.

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